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Could Measles Actually Save Your Life? UNBELIEVABLE Health Benefits Revealed!
Could Childhood Illness Be a Superpower? Uncover the shocking health benefits of natural measles infection with Dr. Ryan Partovi and Mrs. Madi Partovi from The Partovi Effect. This episode challenges everything we thought we knew about immunity!
- Immune Boost: How measles may fortify children's immune systems.
- Surprising Benefits: Links between measles and lower risks of cancer and heart disease.
- Hygiene Hypothesis: The theory that early exposure to germs aids immune development.
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NEW Long-Term Health Benefits of Natural Measles Infection
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[00:00:00] Introduction to The Partovi Effect
[00:00:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Welcome to this episode of The Partovi Effect. My name is Mrs. Madi Partovi.
[00:00:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi.
[00:00:07] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: let's talk about trade offs and the long term health effects of natural measles infection, which I think you may be surprised to find are actually a lot more positive than you might think. Okay.
[00:00:22] Childhood Immune System Training
[00:00:22] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So first a little bit about immune training and disease resistance.
[00:00:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So we have a lot more epidemiological research, which is like researching populations, right? Background research of like what's going on in populations big studies but not necessarily looking for any outcome, just observing what's going on in big populations suggest that experiencing certain infections in childhood may confer unexpected long term health benefits.
[00:00:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So the idea is, that natural infection can strengthen the immune system and or reduce the risk of some chronic diseases later in life which we which we call in the medical world the hygiene [00:01:00] hypothesis. So in simple terms the hygiene hypothesis proposes that early life exposure to infectious agents helps properly develop and regulate the immune system.
[00:01:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: In the absence of such exposures you have immune dysregulation and increased risk of allergies, autoimmunity, and even cancers. Measles is an important immune stimulus and has been evaluated and what they found was very interesting. Multiple studies. report correlations between having had natural measles and lower rates of certain cancers and cardiovascular diseases in adulthood.
[00:01:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So first, let's take a look at cancer. And that's, I asked it to, because I was aware of the cancer research, actually was not even aware of the cardiovascular disease research, but I've discovered that in, in looking at this review, really fascinating. So cancer protection evidence. epidemiological data from both retrospective.
[00:01:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So looking back and then prospective looking forward studies [00:02:00] support the notion childhood measles infections, and this is natural infection, not the vaccine might be protective against some cancers later on. So this is a study that was looking forward and that they did in England. For children who are born around 1947, found that those who had measles in childhood had significantly lower cancer mortality by mid adulthood.
[00:02:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So they had a much lower risk, a 60 percent reduction in the risk of dying from cancer between ages 15 to 60. So this is adjusted hazard ratio of 39 so that's actually 61 percent reduction. Compared to those with no record of measles. And again, these are, straight from PubMed. And it's the study name is childhood infectious disease and premature death from cancer.
[00:02:44] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: A prospective cohort study. This was a statistically significant finding. The same study noted that other common childhood illness, influenza was also linked to lower cancer risk. So Maybe the flu shot is not worth it [00:03:00] either. More on that in another episode, I'm sure. Whereas the pertussis whooping cough was linked to higher cancer mortality.
[00:03:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So that's an interesting one and maybe we should do a deep dive on that. But right now we're focused on measles cause that's what's in the media, right? The other thing I will tell you about pertussis is a bacterial infection that can be treated with antibiotics. Measles is a viral infection that antibiotics.
[00:03:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: will not help unless the patient develops secondary bacterial pneumonia. So definitely suggest that this effect may be disease specific. So not all infections decrease cancer risk. But measles seems to do focusing on cancer patients in anthroposophic medical system, which for those who are not familiar with is the Rudolf Steiner, Waldorf affiliated German, Integrative holistic medical system where they typically have low vaccination rates patients with a history of the febrile illnesses.
[00:03:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So they ended up getting the ones that cause fever. So the measles, mumps, rubella, chicken [00:04:00] pox, et cetera, had a markedly lower incidence of cancer than those who'd never had those illnesses. And this is, they looked at 424 cases, and then they did 379 match pairs. It said and then this one is interesting.
[00:04:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Moreover the more of the such infections they had in childhood, the lower their risk of non breast cancers in that study. So maybe doesn't necessarily help against breast cancer, but other cancers definitely seem to have an effect there. Now why would, why not breast cancer would kind of be one question I would be asking.
[00:04:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think that's probably because breast cancer has more of a hormonal basis. A lot of the time, I would say most of the time, it has more to do with hormones and endocrine disruptors and those kind of environmental exposures and just hormone balance in general, because a lot of them are estrogen and progesterone receptor positive.
[00:04:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so because of that, you may not get as much. Protection as you would from other types of cancer. So although this was a retrospective [00:05:00] study looking backward it's findings do align with this with the prospective data that we looked at before, which reinforces that beneficial link between beating certain cancers naturally.
[00:05:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: certain infections naturally, right? And cancer prevention. So looking at some specific examples, there are even actually some dramatic case reports in the medical literature where you had an acute measles infection, which coincided with the regression of cancer. So cases where someone had cancer, they got measles.
[00:05:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And the cancer went away. Okay. So this is, there's a famous case here from the 1970s boy had Burkitt's lymphoma type of childhood cancer tumor went into complete remission after a measles infection. And then this actually began inspired this modern oncolytic virus therapy, which is something that has been continued to be studied.
[00:05:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And in fact I remember reading [00:06:00] that Mayo had been doing something similar to that, where they were literally giving the measles virus and it does in a certain percentage of people seems to really help the cancer resolve. Pretty fascinating stuff. So researchers investigating using the measles virus deliberately to target cancer cells today, attenuated measles virus is being studied as an acolytic agent to treat cancers with some promising early trial results.
[00:06:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: If you're interested, you can read this study. Measles virus as an oncolytic immunotherapy to, it's kind of a review of that research. The fact that wild measles can, in rare cases, trigger tumor regression in humans supports the idea that measles infection provokes an anti cancer immune response or directly destroys cancer cells.
[00:06:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: While intentionally cancelling, catching measles is absolutely not a standard or safe cancer therapy. These observations reveal an intriguing biological phenomenon that measles virus can activate immune pathways, again, viruses [00:07:00] and cancer, TH1 response that might surveil and suppress tumor growth.
[00:07:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Before we move on to other health benefits, long term health benefits of getting a measles infection, did you have any Questions about the Cancer Association?
[00:07:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: No.
[00:07:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Is that is it kind of mind blowing? To me, I thought that was pretty mind blowing.
[00:07:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It is. A
[00:07:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: 60 percent reduction in cancer risk?
[00:07:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's pretty huge.
[00:07:25] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It is. And I'm still looking forward to you, like, really nailing down the questions that I asked.
[00:07:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I will. I think that's I think it will become very obvious by the end. Okay. Just bear with me here, right? Try to stay with where we are right now. I get that you came in with questions and I will my promise to you is by the end, we will get those questions will be answered.
[00:07:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay. So beyond.
[00:07:50] Cardiovascular Benefits and Broader Implications
[00:07:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Cancer researchers have examined links between measles and by the way, what we're looking at now is part of that answer. So you really want to lean into this and really get [00:08:00] everything that I'm saying, okay? So beyond cancer, researchers have also examined links between measles and other adult health outcomes.
[00:08:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: A large Japanese cohort study recently reported that men who had natural measles and mumps in childhood had significantly lower mortality from cardiovascular disease decades later. This is a really fascinating study and I will just, I think the summary it provides here is really great, but I would encourage for those who.
[00:08:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: are interested to go take a look at it. Association of measles and mumps with cardiovascular disease. Men with a history of both measles and mumps had about a 20 percent lower risk of total cardiovascular death compared to those with neither infection and notably lower rates of heart attacks and strokes.
[00:08:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I don't know about you, but if I had a vaccine that could give me a 20 percent lower risk of total cardiovascular death, I would absolutely take it. So I'm a little bit Pissed, frankly, reading this that I wasn't given the [00:09:00] opportunity to have a measles infection naturally. And instead I was vaccinated against it.
[00:09:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And now I lost out on the opportunity to have a 20 percent reduction in my risk of cardiovascular death. Think about that for a second. That is huge. Cardiovascular death is the number one killer of people in this country right now. Okay. Women with both infections also saw a similar protective association for stroke and overall cardiovascular disease.
[00:09:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Authors suggest childhood infections could help train the immune system in a way that impacts atherosclerosis risk, again citing the hygiene hypothesis as a framework. Additionally, other common childhood viral illnesses show correlations with reduced illness later, so this is not just a measles thing.
[00:09:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Right. For example, having had chickenpox or varicella in childhood has been correlated with significantly lower risk of brain cancer, specifically gliomas, in adulthood. A [00:10:00] multi country study found that a 21 percent reduced risk of glioma among adults who had chickenpox infection in the past, which validated earlier hints of that link.
[00:10:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's huge. 21 percent reduction in risk of glioma. And by the way, for those who don't know, since cell phones have been introduced, we've seen incidents of glioma and other both glioma and glioblastoma have increased steadily along with the exposure to the microwave, I believe it's microwave radiation.
[00:10:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Isn't that right? Or is it
[00:10:31] Mrs. Madi Partovi: EMFs?
[00:10:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, electromagnetic, obviously there are electromagnetic frequencies, but I'm talking about the specific types. Anyway from cell phones. 21 percent reduction of risk of glioma in people who had chicken pox. So all these findings, Lynn credence the idea, overcoming natural infections.
[00:10:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Through the immune system may convert, confer this long lasting health benefit, possibly by strengthening immune surveillance against abnormal cells. Researchers do caution, of course, say that [00:11:00] correlation does not prove causation. No responsible doctors suggest deliberately catching measles as a health booster, given the acute risks.
[00:11:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Maybe I'm not a very responsible doctor. We'll get more to that though, because might it be okay? Might it be okay given certain nutritional factors? We'll get to that in a minute. But the data do indicate the relationship between common ch because that also answers your question. It's like, but do I, what happens if I do get measles, right?
[00:11:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: The data do indicate relationship between common childhood infections and long term health is complex and not entirely negative. There may be some trade off of short term illness for long term benefit. I completely agree. So here we are, having said that, yeah,
[00:11:39] Mrs. Madi Partovi: that hit. There may be some trade off Of short term illness for long term benefit in certain cases.
[00:11:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, and it's obviously it's Chat GPT It's trying to hedge itself. It's not trying to make a strong case one way or the other but It's I think that it's undeniable That there is some [00:12:00] trade off biology is all about trade offs Just like brett and heather are always talking about on the dark horse podcast.
[00:12:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Dr. Brett Weinstein and heather hyang my favorite podcast that is Inherent in biology, right? There's trade offs. Always. Inherent in life, frankly. There's trade offs. So that's what we really need to be looking at and that's what nobody's talking about. So that's why we created this video.