The Partovi Effect

Cringe-Worthy Truths of Parasites, Cancer, and Medical Mayhem

• Dr. Ryan and Mrs. Madi Partovi • Season 1 • Episode 17

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What if your persistent health challenges had a solution hiding in plain sight? Dive into this conversation as we tackle long COVID, cancer, and the surprising truths about repurposed medicines, gratitude, and family dynamics.


In this episode of The Partovi Effect, Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI, and Mrs. Madi Partovi explore the power of holistic wellness plans for complex conditions like long COVID and cancer. From the nuances of parasite cleanses to the importance of family and gratitude, they challenge mainstream narratives with actionable insights for better living. Tune in for an engaging discussion packed with practical takeaways and transformational ideas.

Key Takeaways from this episode:

  • Addressing long COVID symptoms through innovative wellness strategies.
  • The role of repurposed medications, like ivermectin, in holistic care.
  • Why gratitude and presence can profoundly shift your mindset and health.
  • Family dynamics: navigating old triggers and creating healing spaces.
  • Empowering food choices for holidays, including keto-friendly and organic options.

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REAL Episode Seventeen The Partovi Effect

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[00:00:00] Introduction to the Partovi Effect

[00:00:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Welcome to this episode of the Partovi Effect. My name is Mrs. Madi Partovi. 

[00:00:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi 

[00:00:07] Mrs. Madi Partovi: and I'm going to toy with the YouTube algorithm, okay? Okay. Establish some algorithm dominance. 

[00:00:16] Understanding Long COVID

[00:00:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Long COVID. If you're suffering with long COVID, if you know somebody that's suffering with long COVID, we can support you.

[00:00:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You don't have to go it alone. If you have long COVID symptoms, if you have symptoms for weeks, months, perhaps years. We can support you. There's definitely the keys to the kingdom, through our wellness plan to resolve your symptoms. 

[00:00:39] Parasite Cleanse Insights

[00:00:39] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Parasite cleanse. You don't have to go it alone. Okay. We can support you and you can be guided by an expert medical team.

[00:00:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Parasite cleanse. We can support you through our wellness plan and ivermectin. Ivermectin. Ivermectin is only part of the key.[00:01:00] 

[00:01:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What else? 

[00:01:02] Cancer Treatment Alternatives

[00:01:02] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Cancer. Okay? Cancer. You your only option does not have to be the allopathic way. There is another way. And there is also this way in conjunction with the allopathic way. 

[00:01:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Which is what I actually recommend, for the record. 

[00:01:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes, and we can support you.

[00:01:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I do have some comments about those things if you're done. I was waiting for you to be done. I'm done. Yeah. 

[00:01:31] The Role of Ivermectin

[00:01:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: No, I mean, I think the first thing about the parasite cleanse that just, you know, that I have to say is you might want to first make sure that you actually have parasites. It's like, instead of just assuming that you do or you probably do or that you might, and then unnecessarily treating yourself with multiple toxic drugs or toxic botanicals, a lot of times the botanicals can be even, or it can be as toxic if not more toxic than some of the anti parasitic [00:02:00] drugs, believe it or not.

[00:02:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So, yeah, I mean, And there's a lot of things that people, I think, are misdiagnosing as parasitosis. And I would not want them undergoing the kind of treatments that are out there unnecessarily. as well. And that being said, tying that back into cancer, and I think we've talked about this in a previous episode and if we have, maybe Molly could link it down below.

[00:02:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But I think that one of the big mistakes people make is they assume that because anti paras some anti parasitic drugs have been shown to be helpful in cancer, therefore cancer must somehow be associated with parasitosis. And that's not necessarily true because the way that medications. often work is that there's multiple mechanisms of action and, ways that they affect certain molecular systems.

[00:02:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And so because of that, you can have one drug and it can do many things. The classic example is aspirin, right? [00:03:00] Aspirin historically is always known as a pain reliever. And then they realized, oh, it can also lower fever. And then now we know Oh, it also is an anticoagulant, but we didn't know it was an anticoagulant.

[00:03:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I think until like the 1950s. And so there were lots of people that were giving their hemophiliac patients aspirin and killing them. And you saw that a lot. In fact, a funny little tidbit. One of the reasons why we think that Rasputin was able to weasel his way into the Romanov. court was because he forbade the use of aspirin in young Alexei, who had hemophilia, who was the heir to the throne in the time of Tsar Nicholas II, little Russian history tidbit.

[00:03:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: For those who don't know, I my undergraduate degree is in history. And so we think that it was his forbidding the use of aspirin, which enabled Alexei multiple times to recover from accidents and falls and things like that, [00:04:00] even though typically they would have given aspirin because they, again, they didn't know it was an anticoagulant at this time.

[00:04:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: That was what enabled him to sort of get his claws into the Czarina. There's a whole, interesting story about that. But yeah, I mean, we didn't know about that until fairly recently. So I think we're still learning. Mechanisms of action of different drugs. And we see that with Ivermectin, obviously in Covid and other Coronavirus other RNA viruses, and then now also with different cancers.

[00:04:26] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So it's really fascinating. I love it. I love this whole repurposed drugs. Using drugs that are already on generic that turns out, oh, they have other things that they can do. Fantastic. Let's use 'em for those. And they're cheap and they're available, affordable, so why not use 'em? And a lot of 'em have much lower side effect profiles.

[00:04:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: than your typical chemotherapeutic agents for sure so that's really the excitement. I mean, the, that Maddie has around cancer is really for that reason. And what was the first thing you mentioned? [00:05:00] 

[00:05:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Long COVID. 

[00:05:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Long COVID, right. 

[00:05:01] Spike Protein and Vaccine Injury

[00:05:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I also wanted to mention vaccinosis vaccine injury because that's another thing that's really tied with long COVID.

[00:05:07] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: What we really call it now is it's all spikopathy. Really, it's one thing. Right? It's spike protein associated disease, spikopathy. And whether it comes from long COVID or from vaccine injury, we treat it all, we do it all, not a problem. And the protocol is similar, but not identical. And it's something that with this point, we have a fair amount of experience.

[00:05:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I mean, I would say as much experience as anybody does treating those. And frankly, a decade and a half of experience treating vaccinosis, vaccine injury in general. Prior to that. So, 

[00:05:39] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yes, it was spike apathy, parasite cleanses, cancer. This is not a vitamin commercial. 

[00:05:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: It sounds a little bit like it though.

[00:05:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I like 

[00:05:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: weekends. I'm 

[00:05:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: here for it. I love that episode. It's so funny. It's 

[00:05:53] Mrs. Madi Partovi: so funny. 

[00:05:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Anyway, 

[00:05:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: we can support you. Yes. [00:06:00] And this is more of a 

[00:06:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Oh, sorry. For the Zoomers in the audience, if all two of you that was an I Love Lucy reference, which is was the most famous sitcom in your probably grandparents generation growing up.

[00:06:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah. Just needed to put that in there. Just, wow, 

[00:06:18] Mrs. Madi Partovi: okay. 

[00:06:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: For the handful of Zoomers. 

[00:06:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Oh, okay. There, there are Zoomers that listen. Oh my god, I have 

[00:06:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: no idea how many she's the one who knows that stuff. 

[00:06:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What was I gonna mention? Oh, okay. So this is not a Me Regimen commercial. You said 

[00:06:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: that.

[00:06:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yes, 

[00:06:34] Mrs. Madi Partovi: it did. I but 

[00:06:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: that was actually. Very classic 

[00:06:38] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Vita Vegement, 

[00:06:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: because that's the whole point of the episode is that she gets so, because it's 25 percent alcohol, right? So she gets so drunk on it that by the end of the episode, she can't even say it straight. Maddie has not been drinking. She's just high on life.

[00:06:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I promise. Continue. 

[00:06:58] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So this is [00:07:00] a strong invitation for our community to look into And listen for the outcropping of people in your sphere with persistent symptoms and the people that are in your, your circle that are getting cancer. 

[00:07:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Well, or anybody really that has had a new diagnosis since COVID.

[00:07:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: It's worth screening to see, what their anti spike push and antibody titers look like, because that is an indication of either persistent spike either from exposure to other people or from their own history of vaccination. Or anti spike sorry, spike induced autoimmunity, which is also quite common.

[00:07:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So, 

[00:07:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yes. 

[00:07:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And that can also predispose, or we believe that probably, FLCCC believes that may be increasing the risk. of these turbo cancers that either will recur or will begin and they'll progress really rapidly to stage four [00:08:00] because the immune system is sort of overburdened fighting off spike or spike induced autoimmunity.

[00:08:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Because again, there's 23 epitopes, which are like specific protein conformations, peptide conformations. That are present in the COVID virus that are also present in the human body. So spike induced or COVID induced autoimmunity is for sure a real phenomenon. But yeah, so that's why it's important to just.

[00:08:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Get that screening, check it out, and if you sort of haven't felt right, either since you had COVID, or since you, sometimes it's the second, third, or fourth dose, a lot of times some people will react to the first dose, a lot of people maybe don't react to the third dose, or the fourth, or the fifth dose, it just depends.

[00:08:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: of the vaccine in terms of boosted, the boosters, right? So if there's been that kind of a situation where I've never felt right since, or there's been a new diagnosis in the last few years, it's worth screening. And look, there are times where we, the levels come back totally normal.

[00:08:59] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And we have to [00:09:00] tell someone, look, this is something that would have happened anyway, right? This is maybe because you were more sedentary or, you COVID, but it wasn't because of COVID. Right. And then there's times where we say, yeah, no, you need to be treated for long COVID. In addition to whatever your treatment is for this new diagnosis you have, because otherwise it's unlikely to get better like it really should.

[00:09:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So, 

[00:09:26] Mrs. Madi Partovi: all right. 

[00:09:27] Gratitude and Grace

[00:09:27] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Can we talk about gratitude and grace? My 

[00:09:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: favorite topics. 

[00:09:32] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. Well, we just celebrated a holiday. Well, we did just celebrate. Yes, where the focus is gratitude and family gatherings. And first thing that I'd like to express. And I 

[00:09:44] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: just, by the way, I want to clarify because I kind of just, metaphorically pooped in space.

[00:09:49] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I struggle with with accepting people's gratitude. And I struggle with really, I think having grace in the face of own [00:10:00] shortcomings. So, that's really what I was referring to, just so we're clear. 

[00:10:05] Mrs. Madi Partovi: That exists in your own brain. 

[00:10:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Right. Like my no, I'm clear. I'm not saying that.

[00:10:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I'm not, I, but I, that's why I said what I said. And that's why I wanted to clean it up, but just clarify it. No, 

[00:10:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: you're, I know, but what I'm saying is that my, the way that occurs to me is vastly different. I experienced you being so grateful for life. 

[00:10:26] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Oh, well, I do say often I love my life. That's true. I do.

[00:10:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I do. I love our family and I love you and I love our boys. And I love the opportunity that I have to make a difference in the lives of others through our work. And, I mean, I love the neighborhood we live in. I love, like, the city we live in. I love the friends we have. I love my family.

[00:10:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I love the opportunity we have to travel and visit them. I love There's so many things I love about our life. So yeah, do 

[00:10:54] Mrs. Madi Partovi: you feel that your interior Like biochemical frequency just shifted there. [00:11:00] 

[00:11:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Well, I do see that I was in the presence of my own gratitude 

[00:11:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: For sure. 

[00:11:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. I don't 

[00:11:07] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: know about biochemical frequencies though.

[00:11:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: That's that's your biochemical 

[00:11:10] Mrs. Madi Partovi: happenings Because there, there is a way that through meditation, through breath and through actually being present to what you're grateful for in life. It's like a good dopamine serotonin drip in your brain, which informs your body. Don't just say neurotransmitter

[00:11:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: names and say drip and think that's good, that I'm going to just let that slide, baby. Come on. 

[00:11:38] Mrs. Madi Partovi: That's why I'm doing this. Come on. Give me the actual. What when you were in meditation or prayer? 

[00:11:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, it's probably actually more

[00:11:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Oh, I want to say and I could be wrong, but I want to [00:12:00] say it may be more like Oxytocin mediated. Okay But I would have to look that up. I'm not you know, but I don't think it's That what you're describing definitely does not sound like dopamine to me. Dopamine is stuff like racing cars, playing video games, scrolling on whatever TikTok, I don't, I'm not on TikTok.

[00:12:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Okay. 

[00:12:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. 

[00:12:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But yeah. 

[00:12:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: There is absolute science to this. This is for another podcast. Right. And you were just present to your gratitude. 

[00:12:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah. 

[00:12:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. That's beautiful. I'm 

[00:12:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: going with oxytocin. 

[00:12:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I like that. It's like a big hug. It's like a warm hug. Yes. Like I'm wearing this. It's from my mom and it's like a big hug from her oxytocin.

[00:12:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm grateful for 

[00:12:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: now I'm thinking about my shirt. I'm like, this was either my mom bought this or it was a gift from my uncle. But either [00:13:00] way, it's like a warm hug too. . See, I'm not gonna, you're not gonna come me up again. No I just, I'm like, I don't want you to I, I didn't want you to be the only one acknowledging that your clothes were purchased by a beloved family member because if I let that slide, I know I would get a message from my sister saying, why didn't you mention the fact that your shirt was purchased by a beloved family member?

[00:13:28] Community and COVID Reflections

[00:13:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I am, I'm grateful for our community. So we just hit over a thousand subscribers over the holiday weekend. And it's very present to who our community is for us. These are, you are people that, throughout COVID, Either you survived. I feel 

[00:13:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: like we should have paused after that so that Molly could have inserted a little da, like a little, and then like maybe put hats on us and like [00:14:00] sparkler or so, , I think it would've been kind of fun.

[00:14:02] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You 

[00:14:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: just kept going, so that's done. Now you 

[00:14:04] Mrs. Madi Partovi: get my gist, right? These are the people that survive being not just survive, but release us. We're steadfast through this time where the world is being gas lit. Okay. And these were people who were judged and maybe cut off from their families.

[00:14:25] Mrs. Madi Partovi: They made a choice, whether to get vaccinated or not vaccinated or they, did get vaccinated. And then they saw the light, that this is not our government and these pharmaceutical companies, like don't really have our interest. 

[00:14:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Those are honestly, I mean, I have a special place in my heart.

[00:14:41] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Those are some of my favorite people. The people who are like, Not to interrupt you, but to interrupt you the people who are like, I'm going to do my part, because everybody's saying I need to do this, right? I'm going to go ahead and get the jab. But then I'm going to keep my ear to the ground.

[00:14:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I'm going to keep listening. I'm going [00:15:00] to remain, in the conversation. I'm not going to assume that everything is safe and effective. I'm going to. Keep an open mind and monitor. How do I feel what's going on? What are the reports coming out? What is the six month post market data showing, and maybe be like, well, hold off a little bit on the booster, we'll see what happens.

[00:15:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And then, oh, people are dying suddenly. Maybe I should not get boosted. Okay. Or, and then they contact us and they say, well, in retrospect, three months later or three years later, maybe this wasn't the best idea. I have been dealing with these symptoms. Can you, can I get unvaccinated? And, we can sort of, you can't get unvaccinated literally, but what you can do is sort of get the immunological environment to a place where it's comparable to someone who's unvaccinated.

[00:15:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. Or you can contact us for a medical exemption because there are still corporations requiring this thing. 

[00:15:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, I mean that's a tricky thing, right? Because, and, frankly I'm almost hesitant to talk [00:16:00] about it on a podcast. I think that, on one hand, I've signed a petition of physicians, We're now, I think, over 2, 000 doctors.

[00:16:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I, that was, I checked a couple months ago. It's been a while and I forget the name of it. Although you may remember 

[00:16:14] Mrs. Madi Partovi: The 

[00:16:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: hope accord. So I've, I'm a signer of the hope accord. I was one of the first, I think, thousand doctors who signed it. And the hope accord is basically calling upon. the FDA to revoke the emergency use authorization and also the approval of the COVID 19 vaccines.

[00:16:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So on one hand, I'm sort of publicly out there as someone who said, these vaccines shouldn't even be available anymore. And yet, people come to us and they say, well, I want a medical exemption and it's feel a little bit stuck between a rock and a hard place because my rationale for the medical exemption is these vaccines shouldn't even be available.

[00:16:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And then what I'm dealing with is that as the employer is basically saying, well, they're mandated. So, we're just [00:17:00] coming at it from two such vastly different perspectives that I almost just want to write them like, this scathing harangue about. how idiotic they are, but that obviously doesn't work, right?

[00:17:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So, it's a game essentially, and you have to kind of play by the rules of the game. And but at the end of the day, I mean, we're just fundamentally anti mandate and I think that mandates should be illegal, frankly. I would say, unless, this is my caveat, right, unless the incident fatality rate is over 15 percent for a disease and for COVID, just to remind everyone, it was 0.

[00:17:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: 9%, okay, but if a disease incident fatality rate is over 15%, then I would consider the possibility of a mandate with the possible exception of, let's say you don't do it, then maybe you have to pay a fine. Right. Which is what they did for smallpox. Smallpox had an incident fatality rate of between 15 and 30%, depending on which study you're [00:18:00] looking at.

[00:18:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And the fine was the equivalent of like, I think, 100 in today's dollars. It was like 5, but this was, a hundred some odd years ago. And to me, that's a reasonable compromise to say, look, if you not willing to do your part, then you're going to have to help subsidize the not participating.

[00:18:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But I think a flat mandate or you're going to lose your job. I mean, that's absurd. They should never have done that. I mean, I think that at the time when they were doing that, by the time the vaccines were out, we had tests that gave a result in 15 minutes. We had, I mean, there's just, there was no reason, there was no reason to do that.

[00:18:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I want 

[00:18:38] Mrs. Madi Partovi: to rewind and stick to gratitude. Well, yeah, I get mad about that kind of stuff. 

[00:18:44] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, we do. 

[00:18:45] Expressing Gratitude and Community Support

[00:18:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And I thought we were going to talk about like, why we eat the way we eat tonight. Are we going to get to that? Yes. I just wanted to just check. Yes. You wanted to complete the Thanksgiving. I 

[00:18:56] Mrs. Madi Partovi: do. Giving of thanks.

[00:18:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. 

[00:18:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Totally got it. Let's do it. 

[00:18:59] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. [00:19:00] And really just express gratitude for our community and who they are for us. I'm just an extraordinary tribe of people.

[00:19:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I was, I got present to something around that in the last 24 hours, because I was doing a refill for a woman who's of ivermectin for a woman who's obviously who I can't say anything about, but other than to say that she's been with us now for a few and she came to us after losing her husband to COVID.

[00:19:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And I got a message today from my office manager that she had requested that we fast track the prescription, which means we do it a little faster and prioritize it. And so we were able to do that and I was able to get that prescription out today, but the point is I was just thinking about not just her, but all of the usually widows.

[00:19:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: We have a group of like widows who've been with us. They're COVID widows. And they've been with us now for many of them have been with us for now, like two plus years [00:20:00] and, still with us, still relying on us for, refills on Evermectin for COVID prevention and COVID treatment. And I some of them have become wellness plan patients and I just really admire them.

[00:20:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I admire how they have honored the memory of their husbands. I don't know if we have any COVID widowers, but we have at least one, but now that I say that, but yeah, I mean, I think that it's just I love being, I love to be able to be there for them. I love the opportunity to take care of them and provide for their health and kind of in a small way do that for their husbands.

[00:20:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: If that makes sense, because I know that their husbands would want them taken care of. So it's something that I sort of take on personally and that matters to me. And I'm grateful for that opportunity because, I mean, on one hand, one of you, your impulse might be, well, my husband died from COVID.

[00:20:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: The last thing I want to do is be treated for the rest of my life [00:21:00] by a COVID dissident doctor. Who's like still talking about COVID four years later. But I also think that. It's exactly maybe who you'd want to treat you because it's somebody who kind of gets what you went through and this and the severity of it.

[00:21:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So anyway, I've talked enough but I just needed to share that because I got kind of moved by it. Really. 

[00:21:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you 

[00:21:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: earlier today. 

[00:21:27] Cherishing Family Moments

[00:21:27] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, so that I was so grateful to spend extra time with our family and with the boys and extra cuddles and kisses and and kind of just really connecting to who the boys are, how they're growing.

[00:21:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I told you the other day that Jean Luc, he got up in the morning and he jumped out of bed, but he kind of fell out of bed and rolled out of bed and he was crying. [00:22:00] So I picked him up and collected him and kissed, loved on him and He smiled at me. He said, let's try that again. This little three year old so resilient, that's his essence.

[00:22:11] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We call him little Baba is very much like his Baba, his grandfather your dad. And yeah, that's his essence. And then our older one, I ask him questions at the end of the day, like, what was the most beautiful thing that happened today? And then he thought about it and he said, I could reach the zipline and it was the wind flowing through my hair.

[00:22:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I said, 

[00:22:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: what? Yes. 

[00:22:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, this child is just so, touch with, the world. And with nature and freedom, like the feeling of freedom. And he told me another story. At school, his drama teacher put on a three minute timer for everybody to be completely [00:23:00] silent because they had talked over him for a minute.

[00:23:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And 

[00:23:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: talked over Ryan or the teacher 

[00:23:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: over the teacher. Yeah. All the students are talking over the teacher. So he implemented three minute silence. And then Ryan said he, he laid down and relaxes. I relaxed my body. I laid down and I took a few deep breaths. I turned something bad into something good.

[00:23:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm just very present to the growth and development. I get how our boys are becoming their own little humans. And it's so beautiful to watch. And then I

[00:23:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: was thinking about that tonight. I came in and Jean Luc had he was lying on the couch and he I don't remember what it was. I was coming in and gosh, that's gonna bother me. But anyway, I came and tickled him and, kind of loved on him. And he [00:24:00] basically I'd had this thought, I was like, this kid reminds me a lot of myself.

[00:24:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But he's also his own person, he's also his own unique little individual, even at age three, it was really a cool thing. And I just kind of, it was almost like I could see his whole life ahead of me. And I'm like, there's going to be things that I really relate to and that we really connect on.

[00:24:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: There's going to be things where I'm like, like, and I just, But I could see it and I could see the dynamic of like him becoming his own person and how it would be confronting for me on some level, but then there would also be times when it would be endearing and it would be something for me to grow and navigate alongside him.

[00:24:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Does that make sense? 

[00:24:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. He notices things too. You walked into this room and he gazed at a painting. You said, mama, that painting is nice. 

[00:24:51] Parenting Reflections and Appreciations

[00:24:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Just love being a mom. Just witnessing the whole unfolding. I'm also grateful for you as a dad. Like it's the little things, I am very [00:25:00] clear that I am a super mom, like an extraordinary, like slammed out mom, because I have such a supportive husband.

[00:25:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Like, even the small things, even when we went to the movies and saw Moana and afterwards you took the boys to the bathroom, both of them, and sometimes Nugget is like touching everything, 

[00:25:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: which, as a doctor is like, oh, and then he'll wash his hands and then he'll like put his hands on the wall.

[00:25:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I'm like, no, you just defeated the entire purpose. 

[00:25:34] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. I mean, you did 95 percent of the diaper changes when we were out in public. So just those things. And then the, you took care of the wake up tonight with the boys. Yes. So I am very clear at who I am as a mom. I get to, I feel very nourished.

[00:25:54] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I get to feel very present and you don't want to deal with my, [00:26:00] with anxiety. Like you're right there to support me. You're there to cook breakfast for them almost every morning. So I just want you to know,

[00:26:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: and I feel that you're really receiving that. So thank you. 

[00:26:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I 

[00:26:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: am there's so much grace that exists. Like I, I am very, I see it everywhere. Grace is the thing that makes what should something that should seem very small and not enough, more than enough. Yeah. 

[00:26:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah. Well, and I appreciate that you were able to actually see and acknowledge those things, even in the face of me being with my family.

[00:26:43] Navigating Family Dynamics During Holidays

[00:26:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: We did Thanksgiving with my side of the family this year. We usually do since since COVID started. And basically before COVID, we used to do it with your side of the family. But the last few years, we've always gone to, to visit them. And one of the things you were [00:27:00] noticing, and we were both noticing, is how, There's like certain behavior patterns because they know how to push my buttons and I know how to push their buttons and so we get in like these sort of verbal tug of wars and sometimes they get very heated and very emotional and we all know that it's coming from a place of love, but like there's part of me that sort of reverts.

[00:27:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I guess in a way to sort of the way that I was in many ways before we met and before we really, we're married and all of that. And you pointed that out. And I really I'm present to that. You're the grace that you showed and giving me the space to really navigate that and work it out and figure it out.

[00:27:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: on my own without, really throwing a big fit or throwing a fit at all, really. Just kind of noticing it, commenting on it and being like, all right, like this is where he is. This is what he's doing. This is what he's got to deal [00:28:00] with. And that and I and you really took care of the kids.

[00:28:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Like I would say, you just said 95 percent of the time diaper changes were in public. I'm like, you took care of the kids 95 percent of the time the week we were there, like there was very little time. I mean, maybe there were other people, and I'm not saying that I was the other 5%, right?

[00:28:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But the other 5 percent may have been cousins, aunts, uncles, that kind of thing. But I really felt like that was, it's something that is, that I do really appreciate. And it's something that, that you were able to do. And not really have it be wrong, but just have it be like, I guess this is, what he's got to do to, When he goes to visit his family, and it's not like I have to, by the way, it's more like there's a process, 

[00:28:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It's a completing and a healing process.

[00:28:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It is. 

[00:28:49] The Importance of Family Gatherings

[00:28:49] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And this is something that I it's so fascinating because I'm going to get a little bit controversial and use a name and we'll talk about it. And you may disagree with me completely on this. I'm going to 

[00:28:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: set the stage for this. So I don't know if it was [00:29:00] the Dalai Lama or Ram Dass that said, if you think you're enlightened, go visit your family.

[00:29:04] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. 

[00:29:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah. Great. Beautiful. Thank you for setting the stage in that way, because that's perfect. So, Alex Hormozy recently said that he doesn't go to family holidays anymore because he doesn't like the person that he is when he's with them. Because that's kind of like an older version of self.

[00:29:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And my philosophy is the opposite. I'm like, you're not actually a transformed human being if you can't be transformed around your family. You are not crafting, you are curating your environment. Crafting and curating maybe your environment so that it sort of gives you it enables you to arise in a particular way, but you're managing it to the point where it's like, okay, it's easy, like, oh, it's easy to be transformed when I get to control my entire environment.

[00:29:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And I don't get to, I don't have to deal [00:30:00] with, stuff that's. People's S. H. I. T. from, 10, 20, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, in some cases sure, anybody can be transformed come from nothing, in that kind of a pristine environment. But the point is to take the.

[00:30:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Personal and professional growth, training and development to take the tools that we've learned, whether it be through personal growth, work, therapy, landmark, reading self help books, whatever it is, and to take that into the actual into the trenches, which is Thanksgiving, Christmas, with the family being there, a big group of people dealing with different opinions, different ideas, different voting records, et cetera.

[00:30:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Right. And different religious views, all of it. Right. And being with that, being your best self in the face of that, and really gradually over time, I think, evolving and elevating who that self is. Not expecting like, well, the way that I am when I'm in [00:31:00] this perfectly curated environment is going to be, I have to be that way immediately with my family.

[00:31:07] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Otherwise, I don't want to spend time with them because I don't like who I am. It's like, yeah, there's a lot of times when I don't like who I am with my family, but that doesn't mean I don't hang out with them. It doesn't mean I skip Thanksgiving, right? It means I say, well, Time to put my big boy pants on and go in there and dive in and see what there is for me to discover and transform moment by moment by moment because all we have is now and now and now and every moment is a new opportunity to actually, take that on and to really be present and be with the family and to Discover something new in and one of the things we discovered and I'd love for you to talk about this is like how great our family is, like how they have an amazing ability that constantly surprises us to actually be with.

[00:31:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Some of our, contribution, which often looks, frankly, pretty confronting. And that if it had come from anyone [00:32:00] else, maybe they wouldn't have taken it as good as they did, but they took it from us and they were really great about it, and then we danced and it was heated, but it was like, yes, 

[00:32:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm gonna be on the court with this.

[00:32:10] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So there, there's, we had a whole house of different political views and and different views about what happened with Covid and, vaccinated or unvaccinated. And, the entire family. In other words, we 

[00:32:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: have a real family. 

[00:32:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And the entire family was really present to unity and connectedness.

[00:32:31] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And in the face of all that, just really being with each other. And it was really lovely. 

[00:32:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah. 

[00:32:38] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. Your family's great. I lost my thought. 

[00:32:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: You were being on the court. 

[00:32:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. I lost my thought. No 

[00:32:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: idea? Okay. 

[00:32:55] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right, well. Oh my gosh. From one per [00:33:00] I'm addressing Alex Hormozy. From one Persian to another. Like there you have 

[00:33:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I'm half Persian, just so we're clear. I don't even know if that's a thing, actually, because I don't even speak Farsi, but my dad's Persian.

[00:33:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. That's fair. Thank you for 

[00:33:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I just have to be precise. Precise. 

[00:33:17] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I gotta be precise. Nature of that explanation. But yes, there is there is now. To, I use the word complete, but forgive and to say the unsaid say what's there for you, in a way that in a way that is compassionate and, you can actually take responsibility, like for how life occurs.

[00:33:44] Mrs. Madi Partovi: To you. 

[00:33:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, you can even be like, Hey, you know what? I really hate who I'm being right now. Like, I hate this. Like, I don't know why it's like I get so reactive or triggered whenever you know, you say this thing and I'm not, this is not who I normally am anymore. I hate that I'm being this way right [00:34:00] now.

[00:34:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But like, here we are and this is what's going on and. Here are my concerns and here's what I'm dealing with. And here's what I don't like about what you're saying. And here's what I do kind of like about what you're saying, but maybe in a different context, like. 

[00:34:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. And if you have the courage to go there, you can always ask the golden question, the silver bullet question, I'd say like what has it been like, what has it been like to be in a relationship with me?

[00:34:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And then just listen to what they have to say. Okay. That was great. 

[00:34:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah.

[00:34:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And this episode And just so we're clear, this is not about ragging on Alex Formosy. I just want to make sure that's clear. This is actually about standing for something, like standing for him, actually having a relationship with his family, and being able to attend family events. And not just him, but all y'all.

[00:34:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Right? Like, like the whole planet. Yes. Like, families that work. Because that's who we are. Right? Yes. Okay, just want to make sure [00:35:00] that was good. Like we were using him as an example because it's kind of a famous example because I've heard him like talk about this on multiple podcasts, he talks about it all the time.

[00:35:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And so I'm like, great, let's take that on because it's like a very public example of what we're describing. Yes. Yeah. 

[00:35:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. 

[00:35:17] Introduction to 'Your DNA, Your Diet' Course

[00:35:17] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So we're going to segue into the continuation of this series the part of the world of food and why we eat what we eat. Okay, great. 

[00:35:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: You're like, okay, take it away.

[00:35:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So last time we talked about kind of our journey to this way of eating, right? And the history of it the natural history of it. And I don't really recall off the top of my head what it is that we said we were going to do next. Maybe you could refresh my memory, or if you can't refresh my memory, 

[00:35:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I was sharing with our community that this will lead into a powerful offering a an [00:36:00] extraordinary online course that is available to, the masses, and it's for people who have had a lifetime.

[00:36:07] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay, there's, I'm going to name everything that's or let you, our community, identify yourselves through who this is for, okay? And starting from the top, like, this is for people who have food addictions. Like that are dealing with sugar, food addictions, who have a relationship with food that is up and down.

[00:36:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: One that is perhaps riddled with guilt or shame. People who have a busy lifestyle, and are interested in really up leveling their understanding of what is optimal for you. Because it's different for everybody. This is why this course is called Your DNA, Your Diet. So if you're of the mind that, okay, you're really interested in, you've tried keto, you've tried paleo, you've [00:37:00] tried everything.

[00:37:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it's just not, it's not working for you. Like you still have those energy crashes. You're still experiencing you don't have a key. There's something missing, the presence of which would make a real difference in feeling this peace and this ease and this equanimity when it comes to making food choices, especially throughout the holidays.

[00:37:25] Mrs. Madi Partovi: When you're jammed with candy and pies and carbs and sugar and and alcohol. Okay, who else is it for, beloved? 

[00:37:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, that's so interesting because I had a just I had a, an idea, which I'm going to come back to in a second. 

[00:37:42] Thanksgiving Menu and Healthy Eating

[00:37:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But I really was so intrigued because, we made this massive menu of like, Probably a dozen different things for Thanksgiving dinner, which we do dinner, not lunch, because we need the whole day to cook, right?

[00:37:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And then my [00:38:00] aunt arrives at the meal, and, she had made we, we asked everybody to bring a couple things so that we could round out the menu, and she had made a keto stuffing, and or one type of keto stuffing. I made a different type of keto stuffing. Totally different, but both yummy.

[00:38:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And also a keto pumpkin pie, which was very good. So she comes in and she's like, what can I eat? Like, I know I could have Turkey, but like, what else is keto? And I was like everything is keto here except for like these two things, the purple sweet potatoes and the rice, which obviously is not going to be keto.

[00:38:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But literally, I mean, almost like accidentally, we pretty much just had this menu, and I mean, we had some pies, I think, that were not keto, and one of them was gluten free, but not keto, right? So, but we had but she had brought her own pie. So, I mean, literally, we had this meal that literally, I think, unless you were a vegan, if you were a vegan, you might have been in a tight spot.

[00:38:59] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: But I think [00:39:00] if you were even just a vegetarian, there would have been plenty of food for you to eat. Pretty much any, any kind of nutritional, and it was, again, a vast majority of it was keto. It was about 95 percent paleo. We may have had some rice here and there. In like maybe two dishes, but yeah, I mean, it was just, and it was all organic, really healthy, good stuff, just really delicious.

[00:39:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: And at no point do I feel in any way like, oh, I'm living without, or I'm doing without, or I feel deprived, even had these really yummy keto rolls, or no, paleo rolls that we like, that are they're they're cheesy bread kind of things, but they're yummy.

[00:39:40] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I was I noticed that throughout the years we had really enrolled the whole family having a meal like this. That was decadent and delicious and nutritious and keto. 

[00:39:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So good. Yeah. Oh, 

[00:39:54] Mrs. Madi Partovi: good. Yes. Yeah. So, so. You can be truly [00:40:00] empowered and like in the food choices throughout, these major holidays and really be yeah, empowered.

[00:40:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Yeah, there's really no reason why other than, people's limiting beliefs, I would say, which of course are big, but there's really no fundamental impediment to having a Thanksgiving that's as delicious and rewarding as Thanksgivings you grew up having. Cooking the way that we cook, I would just say to me, it's just I actually prefer the purple sweet potatoes more than the regular sweet potatoes.

[00:40:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I mean, you could certainly use regular sweet potatoes. That's fine. But the purple ones have the extra anthocyanins, which are, have an antioxidant and Sort of, specifically endothelial antioxidants. So the inner lining of the blood vessel, helps protect them. That's really good.

[00:40:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: So, and there are, as you love to say, it's a blue zone food, right? 

[00:40:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. Oh my gosh. I can't wait to talk about that. The man who forgot to die. That's for another [00:41:00] episode.

[00:41:00] Conclusion and Gratitude

[00:41:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So thank you for your generous listening. Thank you for showing up to the podcasts. Thank you for subscribing and following and leaving the ratings and reviews. Thank you for all of that. And this has been a phenomenal episode.

[00:41:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: It has. 

[00:41:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Of the Partovi Effect. 

[00:41:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi. And I am Mrs. Madi Partovi.

[00:41:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD,NMD,MIFHI: Thank you for joining us. Be well.

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