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Why Your Immune System May Be Failing- Plus Gratitude & Big Announcement!

• Dr. Ryan and Mrs. Madi Partovi • Season 1 • Episode 13

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Why This Episode is a Must-Listen!

Have you ever wondered about the science behind persistent spike proteins, immune responses, and their effects on our health? In this episode of The Partovi Effect, Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI, and Mrs. Madi Partovi break down the complexities of spike protein antibody tests, the mysteries of immune system blind spots, and how they impact our health. If you want to deepen your understanding of immune health and stay ahead of the curve, you’re in the right place.

Key Highlights from the Episode

  • Introduction to the Anti-Spike Protein Antibody Test
    The Partovis explain what the test is, why it’s crucial, and what elevated or low levels could mean for your health.
  • Concerns with Low Antibody Responses
    They dive into what happens when immune systems fail to respond to spike proteins and the potential long-term health risks.
  • Persistent Spike Proteins and Genetic Factors
    A discussion on synthetic mRNA, genetic predispositions, and their role in immunity blind spots.
  • Cancer Risks and Shedding
    Insights on how spike protein exposure can contribute to increased risks of cancer and other chronic illnesses.
  • Cardiotoxicity and Long COVID Risks
    They discuss the link between spike proteins, heart health, and unexplained cardiovascular symptoms.
  • Viewer Praise for The Partovi Effect and Aspen Wellness Institute
    The Partovis reflect on heartwarming comments from their community, emphasizing gratitude and connection.

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Why Your Immune System May Be Failing- Plus Gratitude & a Big Announcement!

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[00:00:00] Introduction to The Partovi Effect

[00:00:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Hello, welcome to this episode of the Partovii Effect. I am Mrs. Madi Partovi. 

[00:00:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi 

[00:00:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: and the first thing I want to say is that this is going to be a sweet and short episode and 

[00:00:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Famous last words.

[00:00:22] Understanding Spike Protein Test Results

[00:00:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay, well, this is what I'm about to say is a part of a public service announcement, and we are continuing to receive the spike protein test results. What's the official way of saying it? 

[00:00:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: The Anti Spike Protein Antibody Titer test results. 

[00:00:42] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. And many of the results continue to come in very high.

[00:00:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: But there are a handful of people that are yielding, the tests are yielding very high. low results. 

[00:00:59] Concerns with Low Antibody Responses

[00:00:59] Mrs. Madi Partovi: [00:01:00] And this is equally concerning. And beloved, will you please explain why? 

[00:01:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. So really we've only seen a couple of these. And what I would say is that these are people who on one hand, they test positive to the nuclear capsid antibody which means that they've had COVID.

[00:01:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: For sure. These are people who are unvaccinated and they've mounted no antibody response to the spike protein. So, typically we would see, because there's two types of antibodies we're looking at, right? We're looking at the anti nucleocapsid antibodies, which is like the outer protein coat of the virus.

[00:01:39] Implications of Persistent Spike Protein

[00:01:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then the spike protein antibodies, which can be an indication of either vaccination or a strong, if the titers get really high then they are often an indication that there's some kind of long COVID or vaccine injury going on, either because of persistent spike which [00:02:00] can happen due to the vaccines or boosters.

[00:02:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We now know that They can continue because it's not, natural mRNA, it's synthetic mRNA made with a lot of pseudouridine. You end up with persistent spike protein production. It can also be related to just a lot of excess exposure to spike in someone who's sensitive. And actually it turns out semen is the number one way that people get exposed to spike, and it really seems to drive up antibody levels, but there's a lot of other ways, even just being in a car ride with someone who just got boosted or who has COVID or, recently had COVID can be a way to, drum up that immune response.

[00:02:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And the third way is anti spike protein autoimmunity. So COVID induced autoimmunity is something else you've seen. There's 23 different peptides that are common in between the human body and the COVID virus. And so, we think that's a big part of it as well. 

[00:02:58] Genetic Factors and Immune Response

[00:02:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: At least for some people, I would [00:03:00] say When you have an antinucleocapsid antibody response, that's positive.

[00:03:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then you have a spike protein response, which is negative, which is what you're talking about, where literally there's no response to the spike protein. Typically what that's going to indicate is that the immune system has a blind spot when it comes to the spike protein and in particular, well, I would say to the COVID virus and the spike protein in particular.

[00:03:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And that's problematic because what it really It means that's someone who is going to get infected by the COVID virus but not necessarily be able to what we call seroconvert or to be able to fully mount an immune response to the virus. specifically the spike protein. So let's say, for example, this is somebody who's been vaccinated.

[00:03:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: The vaccine would have literally no effect [00:04:00] on them other than turn their body into a spike protein factory. But it's a spike protein factory that their immune system cannot Deal with that spike protein and so it's just going to really contribute to chronic disease in their case And I'm 

[00:04:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: going to assert that people with this with long COVID, but with no symptoms have been

[00:04:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Well, you have to define what you mean by long COVID with no symptoms because that doesn't that's not going to compute to most people 

[00:04:34] Mrs. Madi Partovi: these results 

[00:04:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Well, that's not what we're talking about. So let me finish what I'm saying and then maybe you can follow up with a question. So if somebody has been vaccinated against COVID or has had COVID before, but then they have these really low anti spike protein antibody titers, typically it's either a blind spot in their immune system where they, due to their genetic [00:05:00] differences in their immunity, Which are determined for those out there who've done taken immunology, the HLA haplotypes.

[00:05:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And we're not exactly sure which HLA haplotypes provide this sort of blind spot against the spike protein, but It's presumed that's what's going on here. It could also be just someone whose immune system is very weak. And, that would be especially true for people who are struggling to get through their days.

[00:05:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Especially, we find that often these are people who are going to have some of the most severe symptoms. 

[00:05:36] Cancer Risks and Shedding

[00:05:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Whether that be in the mental emotional side, where they're having a lot of emotional reactions and difficulty regulating, and that kind of thing, or neurological symptoms, sometimes it can be things like parath parasthesias, or spasms to the other side, which is often asymptomatic in the beginning anyway, which is the turbo cancers, right?

[00:05:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So, oftentimes people who will [00:06:00] not have that anti spike protein antibody response because they have really end up unable to clear spike protein to some degree, especially when they're, even if they're not vaccinated, even if their body's able to clear the COVID virus using other antibodies.

[00:06:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: They're still getting spike protein exposure from exposure to people who are vaccinated through shedding. So they're not going to be able to clear the spike protein that they get through shedding at the very minimum, right? And so because of that, it's going to contribute to things like cancer risk and so forth.

[00:06:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So, 

[00:06:32] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I, earlier I was alluding to the the dropping dead phenomenon. 

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[00:06:35] Cardiotoxicity and COVID

[00:06:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, I would say that we know that the dropping dead phenomenon is a result of cardiotoxicity, and we know that cardiotoxicity of COVID comes from the spike protein. So it's reasonable to assume that if you have someone who's not able to mount a successful immune response.

[00:06:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: To the spike protein, then that [00:07:00] might, indicate or it might, then we could infer that they would, as a result of that spike protein exposure, that they're not able to mount an immune response to, that they may end up with as a result of that. Increased cardiovascular disease risk. I mean, that seems logical to me.

[00:07:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I'm I find that plausible. 

[00:07:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. 

[00:07:21] Importance of Regular Testing

[00:07:21] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So it's worth it to get the test done. 

[00:07:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Well, that's for sure. I mean, I, in my view I'm running this test on every new patient. I'm running this test on all current patients at least once a year just to see what their levels are looking like. We've had patients all across the board vaccinated, unvaccinated.

[00:07:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: who've had COVID once, who've had COVID four or five times. And there's quite a bit of individual variation in the immune response. But I think this particular case you're talking about, that we've had a couple of them, it's quite interesting. And it's certainly there's a genetic component to it.

[00:07:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And, it's, it remains to be seen because I think that the couple of [00:08:00] people that we're talking about have either of them actually become patients or were they just, I think they just got the screening. 

[00:08:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, they just got, yeah, they 

[00:08:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: just got the screening. So, yeah, so, so it's hard to say because we have not been able to do any other lab work on them.

[00:08:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So it's hard to say what else may be going on, but it'd be fascinating to find out. 

[00:08:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah.

[00:08:23] Viewer Comments and Feedback

[00:08:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And now we're going to move on to something completely different and lighter. I would like to acknowledge all the People that have been commenting on our podcast.

[00:08:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: The first ever comment that we received on our podcast is from Scott Persky, 8807. Wow. This is amazing. Thank you so much for [00:09:00] everything that you do, Ryan and Maddie.

[00:09:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Thank you, Scott. 

[00:09:07] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. And HiVibe77, y'all are so caring and amazing to each other and your patient care, the heart. Thank you so much. Independent Difference this is awesome. Thank you for taking the time to share this information with us. We appreciate you so much for watching and for leaving these comments.

[00:09:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And. I, um, fully received. Russell Bruch, great that you guys are doing this. A gift to all of us. Thank you, Russell. And Peter S., GGM, or GG1MG If you'd like me to read some of these, I can. Yes, please. Go ahead. 

[00:09:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So Peter says, Thank you, Doctor and Maddie. We found you early via the FL triple [00:10:00] C and did the video consultation with you in order to get an ivermectin prescription in 2021 to 2022 was exposed to a recently boosted family member in summer 2022 and then tested positive but was already with the FL triple C protocol.

[00:10:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: including the beta iodine nasal spray. Felt like crap for 12 hours, but quickly recovered thanks to all of you, much to the dismay of family members who still thought I was crazy to self medicate. What a time in human behavior and political history. Too bad not many have learned the lessons. I like that comment.

[00:10:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And on to Don Teller, 8183. Emotional to me as well. I just wanted to clarify, 

[00:10:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: when he says beta iodine, that's, it's betadine is what he's talking about. Yeah, 

[00:10:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yeah, okay. 

[00:10:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Go ahead. 

[00:10:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And then this Was a comment under one of our cancer episodes. And I know this, she's a mom. Emotional to me as [00:11:00] well.

[00:11:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: My daughter has spoken with you, so have I. Diagnosed stage 4, 25 years old. God bless you both for seeing the truth. For trying to help people. They say my girl will never be off of chemo. I do not believe this. I hope she will change her mind when it comes to the medicine. God bless you both. 

[00:11:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Oh, I think I know who this is.

[00:11:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I already said I know who the daughter is. Yeah. Yeah, I hope so, too 

[00:11:25] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah 

[00:11:26] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I can read the next one Marjorie Cranston says, I totally trust this group. Please listen and also subscribe. That's like the first time we've ever said that actually. So thank you Marjorie for saying that for us. They are readily available and you may do a video consultation.

[00:11:41] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Very efficient staff. I'm sure they're happy to hear that. I cannot say enough about them. So glad to have found them. Do not neglect this information. 

[00:11:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you, Audrey. Carolyn McEvitt, thank you so much for sharing your information once [00:12:00] again. You both are so very helpful and I very much appreciate all that you do for our health.

[00:12:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you, Carolyn. 

[00:12:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: The Grom says, thank you. The past few years having you in my corner has been great. You've been very helpful guiding me in the right direction. 

[00:12:17] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Beautiful. And Janet Koziol, 7054. Dr. Partovi has helped my husband improve his health and has provided us with tons of useful information.

[00:12:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Dr. Partovi is knowledgeable and trustworthy. I recommend him and his staff, who are all very professional and genuinely care about helping improve their patient's health. I appreciate that so much, Janet. 

[00:12:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, thank you for giving us the opportunity. 

[00:12:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. And then Essentially Fit says, Thank you for this amazing info.

[00:12:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It is our pleasure. And yes,

[00:12:58] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Robin Siebold great [00:13:00] service and informative. Thank you, Robin. 

[00:13:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Thank you very much. Sean Crease says, In a world often clouded by misinformation and partial truths, particularly in the medical field, where big pharma's interests can come into play, working with Dr. and Mrs. Partovi is a breath of fresh air.

[00:13:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We pay this man nothing, by the way, I just want to say. Before I joined Aspen Wellness, they took the time To meet with me to answer any questions I had this level of customer service, even before I was a customer is very rare. These days, if you have eyes and ears to question the status quo, I highly recommend starting here.

[00:13:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I do have to shout out to Anna Lake, our office manager, who is his truly phenomenal 

[00:13:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: well, and I should say, talk to everybody for sure. And then if there's somebody who's like, still has questions that she doesn't know the answer to then she'll get them in contact with you.

[00:13:56] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. 

[00:13:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. 

[00:13:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it's it's a way I stay really connected, [00:14:00] to our community's needs. And also all of the, their thoughts and emotions and feelings as well. So it's a, it's an honor for me to be the space for that for people. So thank you so much, Sean. I know that my husband has told me that you're one of his favorite that shows up on the calls.

[00:14:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And he really enjoys 

[00:14:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I try not to play favorites, but you're calling me out here. 

[00:14:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: He enjoys your presence. So thank you so much. And then, 

[00:14:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So, Gatira, Gatiragram, Which is Margarita HG spelled backwards. Dearest Ryan and Maddie, It is so wonderful to have found your YouTube channel. You have been in my mind and heart all these years, and I'm thrilled to be able to see and listen to you both again.

[00:14:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: You are a power couple and a blessing to the world. Thank you so much for being who you are and your positive impact. I love you and miss you. [00:15:00] We love you and miss you too, Angie Margarita. Yes. So this is my very dear friend Margarita who went to med school with me. She's also a physician. And she has moved to France.

[00:15:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So we haven't seen her in a few years. But we think about her often. And I look forward to visiting her one of these days. 

[00:15:21] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And YouTube is doing something right because the algorithm presented her with our channel. 

[00:15:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, that's pretty wild. 

[00:15:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right ASCM, my smart pasta it's great to have warriors with courage to save lives with the information that's always current and they're always available to help.

[00:15:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you for all you do.

[00:15:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Did you want to talk about any of the do [00:16:00] you want to talk about any of the other sort of commonly common misconceptions that you hear about online? This might be a good time to do that. 

[00:16:11] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What do you mean? 

[00:16:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Oh, just about ivermectin or anything else. 

[00:16:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I actually, hold on. I just I wanted to take a moment to allow myself to be moved.

[00:16:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Sure. 

[00:16:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You know me. 

[00:16:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Oh, yeah, I do. 

[00:16:26] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. So I'm really just taking a moment to really receive all of those beautiful and extraordinary comments by amazing people, amazing community,

[00:16:36] Mrs. Madi Partovi: As as the practice manager who, I just, I speak to people almost daily people who are suffering people who are, who have loved ones suffering. Just the other day, a young 30 year old male who got the COVID vaccine once and then had COVID at once and has not been the same, since [00:17:00] November of last year.

[00:17:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: There were just a slew of symptoms. So it is the word? is edifying, correct? Just to see these comments roll in. 

[00:17:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, absolutely. 

[00:17:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So thank you. I've, we fully and wholeheartedly receive them graciously. All right. Oh, okay. So the answer to your question in the last few moments is I actually just want to say the word ivermectin so many times that, to, to mess with the YouTube algorithm to see this video just.

[00:17:39] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We yeah we actually it starts to load, I think Molly loads it and then checks it to see if it'll be flagged, right? 

[00:17:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Interesting. 

[00:17:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. Ivermectin. Ivermectin. Ivermectin works. 

[00:17:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We could say it in different accents. We could say like in Spanish, Ivermectin. [00:18:00] We could do the Filipino way is Ivermectin.

[00:18:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We could do French, Ivermectin. I don't know that's correct actually, but I'm trying. 

[00:18:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: How about 

[00:18:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Avermictin? 

[00:18:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Fine. Avermictin. Avermictin. Well, you 

[00:18:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: have to, you have to distinguish if you're going to go drawl or twang because there's really there's two Southern accents, right? But anyway,

[00:18:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Avermictin is more of a drawl. Avermictin is more of a twang, right? So you kind of, I was somewhat, I was mildly famous. in college for my ability to do the draw because I went to school in the South. So 

[00:18:50] Mrs. Madi Partovi: we both had, we also both have a history of being thespians. 

[00:18:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's also true. 

[00:18:55] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. I want to say it the way my mom says it, the [00:19:00] Vietnamese way.

[00:19:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. There you go. . We love you mom. 

[00:19:05] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We love you Mama . Okay. Alright. 

[00:19:10] Closing Remarks and Upcoming Topics

[00:19:10] Mrs. Madi Partovi: This has been the short and sweet episode of the Porto. It 

[00:19:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: actually was pretty short and sweet. I'm gonna, I'll give you that. Yes. 

[00:19:17] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We have something so extraordinary for you next week. And it comes from, oh gosh, a something that. We live every single day in and day out.

[00:19:32] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it has to do with food, like your relationship with food. And ways to empower your relationship with food. Your DNA, your diet. The future of personalized nutrition now, and how that would absolutely alter your life in so many ways. Your mental, your physical, your spiritual health.[00:20:00] 

[00:20:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm just so excited. So please make sure to tune in next week. 

[00:20:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And all of those are all interconnected, by the way. It's one of the challenges I think we deal with as a society, and we could probably do a whole episode on this. But people operate like, Oh, spirituality is totally unrelated to my body.

[00:20:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Like, that's just a separate realm. And, I don't think that's correct. And I also think that people operate as like, there's a lead plate right here, where it's like, Okay, well, Whatever's going on in my brain that's not affected by my body and vice versa and that's you know Or maybe my body could get affected my brain, but that's about it.

[00:20:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's not a two way street and it's obviously a two way street. So Yeah, stay tuned. 

[00:20:49] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes, be well My name is Mrs. Madi Partovi 

[00:20:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: and I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi and this has been The Partovi Effect, Creating the consensus. [00:21:00] Thanks for joining us.