The Partovi Effect

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• Dr. Ryan and Mrs. Madi Partovi • Season 1 • Episode 11

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Step into a whole new kind of healthcare experience, one that’s deeply personal and designed for lasting wellness. We’re Mrs. Madi Partovi and Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI, and on this episode of The Partovi Effect, we’re sharing the story and vision behind Aspen Wellness Institute. This isn’t just about treating symptoms; it’s about uncovering the roots of proper health and empowering you to live with vitality. From Dr. Ryan’s integrative medicine journey to Madi’s dedication to mind-body wellness, join us as we redefine what it means to honestly care for ourselves.

In this episode, we, Mrs. Madi Partovi and Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI, founders of Aspen Wellness Institute, talk about our commitment to personalized, holistic healthcare. Dr. Ryan’s journey led him to a practice that treats the root of illness, blending modern science with naturopathic principles. Alongside him, Madi’s passion for whole-body wellness brings a heart-centered approach, guiding patients to heal from within.

Key Takeaways:

Our Vision for Healthcare: We believe healthcare should be deeply personal. By moving away from traditional insurance models, we spend real time with each patient, getting to the root of their health challenges.

The Aspen Approach: From biotoxin illnesses like mold exposure to holistic fertility care, our practice goes beyond surface symptoms to help patients reclaim vibrant health.

Our Fertility Journey: We talk about the natural, individualized approach we bring to fertility, offering hope to those seeking alternatives to invasive procedures.

Why Listen:

If you’re looking for a healthcare experience that’s both compassionate and deeply committed to your well-being, this episode is for you. We’re here to show that true health goes beyond treatment—it’s about creating a life that feels vibrant, meaningful, and uniquely yours. Join us for an inspiring dive into a new kind of care.

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Episode 11 of The Partovi Effect

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[00:00:00] Introduction to Aspen Wellness Institute

[00:00:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Welcome. My name is Madi Partovi, Practice Manager of Aspen Wellness Institute. 

[00:00:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi, CEO and Chief Medical Officer. 

[00:00:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'd like to take a moment to create who my husband, Dr. Ryan Partovi, is for people. He is the doctor of doctors. He doctors with a lion's heart, and that lion's heart shows up in our relationship, in our marriage with each other, and as a father to our boys.

[00:00:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I'd like to take a moment to introduce my wife, Mrs. Madi Partovi, your practice manager. She is someone who, to me, really embodies the essence of someone who is for the people. And she brings that essence into all of her conversations with others. All of our prospective patients are patients and she has a heart of someone who absolutely is a mama bear and at the same time really is someone who's of service and really wants to, is committed to spreading our vision throughout the [00:01:00] world.

[00:01:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And what that vision is, you'll come to see soon. So I won't spoil it yet. 

[00:01:05] Meet Dr. Ryan Partovi

[00:01:05] Mrs. Madi Partovi: A little bit about who we are, Dr. Ryan. 

[00:01:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So in terms of who we are, I'm going to talk about how I got To where we are. And then Madi's gonna tell you about how she got to where we are. And so we're going to, it's really a bit about us.

[00:01:20] Dr. Ryan's Medical Journey

[00:01:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I started the journey towards my practice. of medicine really when I was discerning at age around 17 what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. And I realized there were so many things that I was interested in that I probably would need seven lifetimes to do them all. So that got me really interested in anti aging and longevity medicine.

[00:01:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it took me to Emory University where I did undergraduate research in the mitochondrial theory of aging. and specifically mitochondrial DNA mutations in Lou Gehrig's disease. [00:02:00] And from then, I, at the same time, was really learning more about integrative holistic medicine and my journey toward understanding how to expand human longevity.

[00:02:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I realized that natural medicine was really the way to approach that, at least today, or even back then. So as I learned more about that, I became disillusioned with the conventional medical system. And specifically, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, and a system that was really run by and controlled by those two industries.

[00:02:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I was inspired at the time to get involved in politics and wanted to change the system, as many 18 year olds do, even today, or perhaps especially today. But, so I ended up going to law school, Southern Methodist University. And I specialized in health medicine and environmental law and really even by the end of the first year I had it was very clear to me.

[00:02:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I really did want to go to med school. So [00:03:00] after when most of my friends were studying for the bar, I was taking organic chemistry and I had already taken the MCAT. And I started at St. George's University School of Medicine, which is the same school that Pierre Khoury went to for his undergraduate medical education.

[00:03:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's where I went for my basic sciences. And I really enjoyed that opportunity. I would say that for me, I still, because I had known about naturopathic medicine, which is natural integrative holistic medicine, and I had delved into that a lot prior to going to medical school, I was already aware of some of the many failings of the conventional medical system.

[00:03:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So as I progressed in my basic sciences, it became really clear to me that there was an emphasis on not that. Like basically, most of my colleagues that were there were wanting to do whatever it is that MDs do to get an MD after their name, so they could.

[00:03:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I was really more interested in understanding the origin of [00:04:00] disease, the cause of disease, what is underlying disease, and to treat that. And we would have pathology rounds, and I would basically prepare This very long presentation that went far beyond the 13 points that we were required to do, getting into what nutrient deficiencies or what toxins could lead to particular disease.

[00:04:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So very much from the beginning of my medical education, I really was very intrigued with this understanding of the origins of disease. 

[00:04:28] Transition to Naturopathic Medicine

[00:04:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so it was really no surprise that ultimately I did transfer to the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine, now called Sonoran University in Tempe, Arizona.

[00:04:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Where I did complete my medical education in the realm of naturopathic medicine, which is really, naturopathic just means the origin of disease, naturo, birth, origin, pathos, rate for disease. Naturopathic medicine really is medicine focused on, Understanding those root causes, [00:05:00] and it was a very natural fit for me, and then I went, and over the course of my own health journey, which I'm sure we'll get into another time, I discovered the work of Dr.

[00:05:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Peter D'Adamo, who became a mentor to me, an inspiration, and really, he was the one that inspired me, because when I was two years into medical education at St. George's, I was Dr. Peter D'Adamo, who became a mentor to me, and really, he was the one that inspired me, because when I was two years into medical education at St.

[00:05:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: George's, I was Very much on the fence of, do I want to keep doing this or not? I had a crisis moment, and I called Peter, I spoke with him, and he was very supportive, and really was part of the inspiration of me saying, Okay, I don't want to give up on medicine completely, I want to switch to naturopathic medicine, and really pursue this, because there's a lot of good that we can do with it.

[00:05:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And obviously I still believe that for sure. And I think that what that good is continuing to expand and grow every year of my practice. But I ended up doing residency, creating the first residency of its kind in generative medicine. Generative medicine is just the application of computer analysis [00:06:00] to personalized medicine.

[00:06:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I was the first resident in that new discipline, which we now have a board that is specialty board as part of the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians, the generative medicine board, and I'm some secretary of that board, but suffice it to say that specialty is one that is really in many ways was ahead of its time, but also is continue to gain in relevance and importance over the course of the ensuing decade.

[00:06:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And a half really. So after completing my residency at the Center for Personalized Medicine in Wilton, Connecticut, as well as the University of Bridgeport College of Naturopathic Medicine, it was a dual program. I then moved to San Diego to start my practice, which is where Eventually, I met Madi, but yeah, we'll get into more about my sort of my practice history.

[00:06:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: But for people who are curious about how you ended up here, that's really the story of how I ended up there, because it's, I think it's important to [00:07:00] understand someone's origins as a physician, so you can understand why they treat disease the way they do. And fundamentally, the approach that I use is about optimizing longevity, not just The length of one's life, but also the quality of life and the best way to do that is by optima, an optimal combination of natural and conventional medicine will be called integrative or holistic medicine that deals with mind, body, spirit in a comprehensive way.

[00:07:30] Meet Madi Partovi

[00:07:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Madi, why don't you share with us a bit about your own journey to this. Place we find ourselves. 

[00:07:36] Mrs. Madi Partovi: That was beautiful and so thorough and comprehensive. 

[00:07:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Believe it or not. I left a few things out 

[00:07:43] Madi's Personal Journey

[00:07:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'll say first that it's been the fulfillment of my life's purpose because I've been on a quest since I was very young to discover what would be the fulfillment of my life's purpose and For it to be in alignment with my husband And with [00:08:00] everything that he believes in and everything that he stands for is a dream come true.

[00:08:04] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And ever since I was young, I found many of my life's answers through my body or through the wisdom of my body. And through many years in the corporate environment, I knew that it just wasn't for me. So I continued that quest and became a holistic health practitioner, massage therapist. I worked in the sports medicine arena for some years before being inspired to start my own movement and wellness studio.

[00:08:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I have a certain measure of respect for conventional medicine. One day, I was on my way to work. Women's specific Trek 2200 bicycle. And I was commuting to work and I got hit by a car speeding 45 to 50 and a 25 mile per hour zone. My helmet cracked in half. I sustained an open fracture to my [00:09:00] femur. Compound fracture to my tibia and fibula, and I had emergency surgery, so my right leg is made of titanium.

[00:09:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I have 11 screws in my ankle, my knee, and my hip. And if it weren't for modern medicine, I would be alive. And then again, when my placenta didn't deliver, after my first birth. And then again, after my placenta, again, did not deliver, after my second birth. I worked for some years. With a sports medicine and through some serendipitous opportunities, I was led to open Yoga Monkey, a yoga movement and wellness studio where we offered yoga, Pilates, and bar massage therapy, acupuncture and energy work.

[00:09:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And then I met you. And we had our first date at my yoga studio. And that was the beginning of a, this beautiful story. I had always wanted to become a naturopathic [00:10:00] physician and when I discovered I may as well marry one. And that's where our journey began. I sold the yoga studio prior to giving birth to our first son and in 2000, 2019?

[00:10:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: No, 2018 we joined forces. 

[00:10:19] Joining Forces: The Partovi Partnership

[00:10:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: No, in my view, we joined forces really as early as the end of 2016, beginning of 2017. 

[00:10:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, okay. 

[00:10:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Because you had helped me revise the new patient packet, I think it was January of 2017. And we changed, that was when we started bringing on people, the concierge, we had changed it to an upfront charge and all that stuff.

[00:10:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: That's right, that's even before we got married. 

[00:10:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That was before we got married, 

[00:10:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yeah. Okay. That's right. 

[00:10:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: It was the end of 2016. While we were planning our wedding, she was taking over the job of practice manager, and we were rewriting a lot of our documents and changing the structure of things [00:11:00] financially.

[00:11:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. So during our courtship, we created who we are. As a couple and also who we are for the planet 

[00:11:09] Challenges with Insurance-Based Care

[00:11:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, so I think that getting into what it is that we're doing i'm going to pick back up So when I moved to san diego, the plan was to create an insurance based primary care model that would allow me to bring naturopathic medicine to the vast majority of humanity and then to scale it up beyond that.

[00:11:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And what I discovered in nearly eight years of insurance based primary care is that the insurance system is, which is something, by the way, that many other physicians have already discovered, but I had to discover it for myself. As oftentimes we do when we have to, when we're truly going to have a transformative experience.

[00:11:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We have to experience it ourselves in many ways. I ended up realizing that the kind of care that I'm committed to providing, there's just no way that we could do that under the insurance [00:12:00] model and keep the lights on. 

[00:12:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm going to get really on the court with this. 

[00:12:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Sure. 

[00:12:04] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You were spending up to three hours with Each patient, 

[00:12:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: especially on a new patient visit.

[00:12:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, 

[00:12:11] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yes. 

[00:12:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then, of course, insurance could with the way insurance model works is that every minute you spend with a patient after 15, you start losing money. And the longer, once you get to 25 minutes, then you really start losing money. And after 40 minutes, it's like you're giving your time away. So that's for people don't know how insurance billing works.

[00:12:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's basically how it works. Yeah, it was not sustainable. And after years and years of trying to get it to work and trying different approaches and getting creative with our billing and not nothing untoward, just trying to figure out how to get the exact precise codes. exactly right so that we could maximize our reimbursement.

[00:12:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We just realized it was not workable. So we switched to a cash bay practice in August of 2018. We got out of the insurance [00:13:00] model and went full at the time was we were just doing concierge and it was really just the two of us at that point. I had also I should mention that. My practices had an element of remote consultation.

[00:13:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So phone, Skype, internet, zoom, email. That's been part of our practice really from day one out of residency. And I've had patients all over the world that I've worked with, and that was always cash pay. But then I also had this insurance primary care model that we were working on trying to develop and master that.

[00:13:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it became very clear around August of 2018, that There was just no way to continue the insurance based primary care. And so then we went full into the remote consultations and we were doing remote consultations really all the way up until COVID began. And that's when everything. It was interesting because we were ahead of the game, right?

[00:13:56] COVID-19 Response and Innovations

[00:13:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then when COVID began, in the beginning, my [00:14:00] experience of it was this is an infectious disease, usually conventional medicine does a pretty decent job of dealing with infectious disease, it probably won't be anything that we can really Contribute to, which is ironic now, but in the beginning it was more about what can we do to improve our health, boost our immune response, and Dr.

[00:14:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: D'Adamo had created an algorithm looking at different herbs and things which had really either evidence against previous coronaviruses or basically broad antiviral benefits. And so we had created a matrix that we ended up using to create a fully natural protocol, which was very good. It was, as far as I know, for everyone who was taking it, a hundred percent effective at preventing infection.

[00:14:44] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: But of course we didn't continue that forever. When, and stop me anytime if you want me to, if you want to interject anything, but. In, I think it was February of 2021, I saw Pierre Khoury's interview with Brett Weinstein on the Dark Horse podcast and [00:15:00] learned about Ivermectin, learned about the FLCCC, the Frontline COVID 19 Critical Care Alliance, which we pretty quickly joined their provider list and became one of the first 125 doctors that were part of that.

[00:15:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Practices that were part of that group. We were one of the first 500 practices that were treating COVID on an outpatient basis, which is to say at home, which we continue to do to this day. And as such, we were one of the first COVID aware practices in this country because it became very clear that COVID was more than just a regular virus.

[00:15:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That this, once it became clear, there was research that came out of the Salk Institute of Virology in, which is like the gold standard in vaccine research in San Diego, California, and they discovered that the spike protein was the, of the SARS CoV 2 virus was the mechanism by which That virus exerted its cardiotoxicity and cytotoxicity generally.

[00:15:59] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And [00:16:00] so as a result, it became very clear that in fact the spike protein was a biotoxin. And biotoxin illness is something that I've been treating in my practice, starting with pretty early on. I did my, I did a year of rotations in school with Dr. Walter Crinion, was one of the world's experts in environmental medicine.

[00:16:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I call him the godfather of environmental medicine. And environmental medicine is just the impact of toxins on our health. And I think. When you look at toxins, people think primarily of toxicants, which are man made toxins, or exposures due to man, so things like chlorinated pesticides, solvents, PCBs, phthalates, bisphenol A, organophosphates, heavy metals, again, not necessarily man made, but man derived exposures, and then you've biotoxins, which is a realm people don't think about, but these are toxins produced by viruses, fungi, bacteria, parasites that can also cause damage and toxic effects due to individual variation, genetic variation on [00:17:00] their immune response against these particular toxins.

[00:17:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: In all of the cases of the biotoxins, you've got The majority of the population that's able to mount an acquired immune response, in other words, produce antibodies against those particular, their proteins fundamentally, but against those particular biotoxins and eliminate them, and then you have somewhere 25 percent or fewer of people who are not able to produce, or they have an impaired immune response.

[00:17:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Production of an acquired immune response. And so they deal with chronic activation of the innate immune response. So for those who don't remember their immunology or who never took it, obviously, the idea with the innate immune response is these are going to be your first responders and they're stuck in this inflammatory loop.

[00:17:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: But the way to think about that would be, let's say there was a big pile up on the interstate. And the first responders came out and they brought a bunch of people from their cars and jaws of life and the whole nine yards. And then they were, they took him to the hospital [00:18:00] and the people at the hospital were like, we don't see anything wrong with these people.

[00:18:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: They seem totally fine to us. It's the functional equivalent of the immune system doing that. And meanwhile, the EMS people are yelling, what are you talking about? Is this obvious? This guy's femur is poking out of his leg. And what do you mean? Then the doctors, I see nothing. So that's the immune system is basically operating in that way where we have our first responders.

[00:18:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then we have our acquired response that actually deals with the infection. And if that acquired response is not able to manifest, you deal with this chronic inflammation that just builds and builds until you remove the exposure. and sometimes help the body get rid of some of the toxins that are on board.

[00:18:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That person stays in a chronic inflammatory loop. So biotoxin illness is something that had become a really strong focus of our practice. In the last few years of my practice I'd become known as San Diego's mold doctor because of how much mold illness we were treating. And so it was once we realized COVID was also an example of a biotoxin because of the [00:19:00] lab origin, once that became really clear, then it became obvious that, okay, this is something that is going to need additional treatment beyond, the basic, just supportive care that was being provided at the time.

[00:19:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We dived in headfirst full in and got really involved in supporting people with their COVID, not just with COVID infections, but prevention, post exposure, prevention, treatment. Even hospital rescues, we call them, where basically people were allowed, were basically being told to put on a ventilator. We're going to put you on a ventilator.

[00:19:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And if you look at the broad statistics of that, about 10 percent of people put on ventilators with COVID end up surviving. So it's pretty low. In our practice, people at that stage of the disease, that fulminant COVID pneumonia, are about seven and a half times more likely to survive than if they go on a ventilator at the hospital.

[00:19:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's not a hundred percent, I would never claim that, but we have a pretty good success rate even at that late stage of the disease using a lot of, frankly, the [00:20:00] hospital based protocol stuff at home. For people who don't know, you can do home IVs, you could do home high flow oxygen, you can do a BiPAP at home, which actually has some of the similar effects of the ventilator.

[00:20:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: We can also do a lot of the treatments which are not allowed in the hospital due to Conflicts of interest, perverse incentives, which have been detailed by Dr. Brett Weinstein and Drs. Merrick and Corey and the other members of the AFL CCC, ad nauseum, so I'm not going to detail them here, but I would just say that's and of course, allies as well, like Dr.

[00:20:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Mercola and Dr. Malone, and, but I would say that for the most part, once we really There was no going back from sort of the realization of how politicized and how corrupt the response to COVID had become. And once we really got involved in that, and have seen a lot of the secondary effects of COVID. Long COVID, long haul COVID syndrome presenting as postural orthostatic tachycardic syndrome [00:21:00] or POTS.

[00:21:01] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: You've got a lot of people with myocarditis pericarditis, of course, not just from COVID, but also some of the boosters as well. You've got, because again, spike protein is spike protein, the more of it you're exposed to, the greater your potential risk of long term consequences. We've been seeing your turbo cancers, which are rapidly progressing cancers or cancers that were in remission that are regressing and the progressing at a very rapid rate, often to stage four and really anything strange dermatitis, eczema type reactions.

[00:21:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: dermatitis type reactions and everything in between. On new autoimmune diseases, basically we've seen a lot of different things, fertility problems, and that gets into the fertility side of our practice is something, because we are very committed to addressing Longevity and youthfulness and vitality, and also from a perspective of looking not just at very personalized nutrition, but also [00:22:00] biotoxins and toxicants.

[00:22:03] Fertility and Holistic Health

[00:22:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Fertility, which is this modern problem. That's getting worse and worse. It's a problem of modernity. There's tremendous overlap between what we do and fertility optimizations. 

[00:22:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I, I distinctly remember the first conversation we had when I told you that there are people, the people are having a hard time getting access to ivermectin.

[00:22:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Oh, 

[00:22:22] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: yeah. 

[00:22:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. And it started your research. 

[00:22:26] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: She actually what she said was people are having a hard time getting access to this drug because I had prescribed it for my dad who was basically patient zero in our practice with using ivermectin and COVID and he was feeling so much better by day five that he wanted to go back to work and I said no dad.

[00:22:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: You need to wait the full 10 days. And then we had a couple of tragic experiences and then we had a few other successes and then people were, so then Madi said people are having a hard time getting this drug. I said, what drug? Because to me, ivermectin at St. George's where they have a parasitology class that everyone's required to take, the joke was [00:23:00] that if you, It's a treatment question and you don't know the answer, pick ivermectin because it's probably going to be right.

[00:23:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Now, it does not cross the blood brain barrier, which of course is why we have other medications in the FLCCC Eye Care Protocol for treating COVID to help with the neurological manifestations of both COVID as well as in the Eye Recovery Protocol for long COVID, but certainly for The vast majority of effects on the body outside of the nervous system.

[00:23:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Ivermectin tends to be the single most effective agent to this day. We now have over 100 studies showing that. 

[00:23:34] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So there are four major areas in which Aspen Wellness Institute specializes. COVID, cancer, the optimization of health and wellness. and fertility. 

[00:23:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So that's definitely what we're up to right now.

[00:23:49] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I think it's making a difference to people in all those areas. 

[00:23:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And what makes you as a doctor so distinct is that you are COVID informed. And you've been an expert of complex chronic [00:24:00] disease for almost 15 years, and we're on our own fertility journey. I got pregnant and gave birth to our first son at 39, and our second son at 43, naturally.

[00:24:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, which is very possible, and we're trying for a third. So I would just say that working with first time parents and even second, third time parents. It's fascinating and I don't want to go too much down a rabbit hole here, but I'll just say we've had patients that have come and worked with me and I think they almost thought it was a coincidence that they got married and had a child because we've then talked to them five or six years later.

[00:24:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And they said, after my first child, I went and did six rounds of IVF that were all failures. And Ike was like, why didn't you come back to us? Because we were the ones that got, it was you following our protocol that worked the first time. And then for whatever reason, they fell off the wagon. They stopped doing the things that we recommend.

[00:24:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then they're having trouble. [00:25:00] I'd rather just go to IVF or maybe they don't think that it was because of what we were doing that they got pregnant in the first place, because they didn't come to us explicitly as fertility patients. Or maybe they did, but they thought the interventions that we do are so natural and minimally invasive.

[00:25:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: They can't possibly be the reason why they got pregnant. I don't know. I can't be in the mind of everyone, but I'll just say it's truly fascinating because for the most part, the solutions to people's fertility are things which are. Minimally invasive. They are about avoiding toxic exposures, avoiding toxic foods, avoiding foods which are basically like mild toxins for the body, or almost mild poisons for the body, and optimizing the foods which really optimize elimination and optimize health.

[00:25:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so much of fertility, And people think, oh, I've done all that. They'll say, oh, I eat all organic, or I eat paleo, or I eat vegan. But is what you're doing right for your unique physiology, would be my first question. And then beyond that, okay, you eat all organic. What about the rest of your [00:26:00] environment?

[00:26:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Because there can be a lot of things in your environment, and things you put on your skin, and things you put on your clothes, and so many different other things that can impact your health. Fertility. And so I think fertility is an area of passion for both of us. 

[00:26:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So in the world of fertility, what we want couples to know is that it is possible to get pregnant naturally, even into your forties.

[00:26:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And we want couples to know that the pathway towards pregnancy could be one of joy and a relaxed pathway and a very precise pathway according to your individuality and what makes you unique. 

[00:26:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Absolutely. 

[00:26:40] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What else do we want couples to know about? 

[00:26:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: In terms of fertility, I think that's covered it pretty well, I think, from a high level.

[00:26:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And our approach is a response to the conventional fertility industry, where couples and mostly women are monetized over and over [00:27:00] again with procedures like IVF and anything under the Assisted Reproductive Technology umbrella that has very low chances of working. 

[00:27:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I would say that It is both a response, but I would say it also predates in many ways, because it's really about getting your health and your environment back to a place either where you were when you were younger or where humanity was maybe 100, 150 years ago, where women were routinely having 12 kids.

[00:27:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it was no big deal in that sense. And what's happened in the intervening years, right? So it's both a response to, as well as a. turning back the clock in many ways. And restoring things to the way that they really have been for the vast majority of human history. 

[00:27:48] Comprehensive Health and Wellness Approach

[00:27:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What would we like people to know about the optimization of health and wellness and how we can provide the access, like the keys to the kingdom to champion your own health?[00:28:00] 

[00:28:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I think the biggest things I would point out there is just the amount of screening and investigation that we do. Diagnostic medicine is an area of great passion and interest for me. And that's really been The case since I was in residency, my residency director, Dr. Diodomo used to call me Testerosa and he said, it's not because you drive fast.

[00:28:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: So the idea here is that we're doing a very comprehensive lab work. We're looking at over 100 different labs, over 40 panels. We are doing, yes, we are looking at cardiometabolic. Yes, we are looking at diabetes, pre diabetes. I think maybe I've had one too many pre's in there. But the point is basically the progression to diabetes, type 2 diabetes.

[00:28:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: There's pre-diabetes, there's insulin resistance or what's sometimes called syndrome X or dysmetabolic syndrome. And then even prior to that, you have reactive hypoglycemia, which there's labs that can measure each of those phenomena and where we can get a diagnosis and say, okay, where are you [00:29:00] on the journey to diabetes and how could we reverse that back to complete normal blood sugar response?

[00:29:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then with regard to cancer, which I think is really an extraordinary thing that we've added 

[00:29:10] Mrs. Madi Partovi: before you venture there. Okay. Our. Health and wellness, our wellness plan is, there's the conventional, the Rockefeller healthcare system that doesn't put people first. It also monetizes people in, in, in every action that it takes.

[00:29:30] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Whether it be a referral, whether it be a prescription pharmaceutical drug, whether it be a very short, brief, 15 minute visit where the doctor will not speak about any root causes. And Oftentimes, people don't get any answers. There are many patients that have come to us having had no answers from conventional medicine.

[00:29:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: They've been dealing with these issues for years. Like you, you have the right to a life of aliveness and alacrity. [00:30:00] It affects your relationship with yourself and your relationship with your loved ones. and everybody in your circle. So when somebody comes our way, Dr. Ryan and our nurse practitioner Kim Desh will do the due diligence and practice honest medicine and take a look at what is fundamentally going on with your health across so many different areas.

[00:30:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Not just one, and not just the five vanilla labs that conventional doctors do every single time. 

[00:30:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: TSH, PSA if you're a man, Vitamin D if they're a little bit of a better doctor. It's just fundamentally woefully insufficient to do any kind of preventive treatment. active surveillance and preventive medicine to actually reduce one's risk of chronic disease.

[00:30:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it's after treating complex chronic disease now for almost 15 years, it becomes really obvious that the best way [00:31:00] to actually treat Chronic disease is to prevent chronic disease, and we do that by diagnosing it really early, and one thing I wanted to mention in relevance to what you said about people not getting any answers from going to different providers, sometimes we're the 12th, 16th, maybe the record, maybe 20th, I don't know.

[00:31:20] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Dr. The people have seen and they've either been given the misdiagnosis wrong diagnosis, or they're giving some idiopathic diagnosis They're giving some did given some diagnosis that describes their symptom. Usually if your diagnosis contains the term itis which just means inflammation. It means it's describing, odontalgia which just means pain, then it's describing how you feel.

[00:31:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's not actually telling you anything about what the underlying cause of your disease is. And that's what we get into. That's the kind of testing we do, is to really get in okay, yes, there's inflammation, but what's causing that inflammation? Yes, [00:32:00] there's pain, but why is there pain? And so anybody who's been diagnosed with one of these idiopathic, oh, we don't really know what causes it, conditions.

[00:32:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: There's the famous show, House MD and Dr. House likes to say, idiopathic means you're an idiot. We're not quite that harsh in this practice. We say idiopathic means, You just don't know which labs to order. 

[00:32:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So this is what we want you to know, that this kind of intentional, comprehensive healthcare is available to you.

[00:32:29] Conclusion and Final Thoughts

[00:32:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I just, I love doing this with you. 

[00:32:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, likewise. 

[00:32:34] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right, sir. 

[00:32:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: I'm Ryan Partovi. I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi. 

[00:32:39] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And I am Mrs. Maddie Partovi. And one day I'll share why I always say I'm Mrs. Maddie Partovi. It's an inside joke. 

[00:32:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi, JD, NMD, MIFHI: This has been the Partovi Effect Creating the Consensus. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for your time, attention, dedication, commitment to yourself and your own well being and the well being of others and the planet [00:33:00] as a whole.