The Partovi Effect
Creating the Consensus
"The Partovi Effect: Creating the Consensus" is about navigating the sea of disinformation and exposing the lies in healthcare, education, and politics that have left Americans sick, defeated, and divided. As political and economic divides deepen and media censorship clouds the truth, our podcast brings in fresh perspectives from experts outside the political realm—engineers, doctors, scientists, and more— to reconcile divergent perspectives and offer innovative solutions to today’s most critical issues. Our commitment is to create unity and connectedness— building a new consensus rooted in common sense, mutual respect, and the shared wisdom of our human family, and we believe challenging and intense conversations are necessary to fulfill our mission. Welcome to The Partovi Effect—where truth leads to transformation!
The Partovi Effect
Medical Errors Exposed: The Tragic Impact of Negligence and Iatrogenic Death
Unveiling Medical Mysteries: From Negligence to Nutritional Insights
"What we're seeing in early intervention protocols is nothing short of revolutionary" - Dr. Ryan Partovi
Join Licensed Naturopathic Physician and Board-Certified in Generative Medicine Dr. Ryan Partovi and his wife, Mrs. Madi Partovi, as they unpack crucial health insights:
🏥 Healthcare System Deep-Dive
- Revealing cases of medical negligence and their system-wide implications
- Game-changing early COVID-19 treatment protocols with 97% success rate
- Real patient success stories from Aspen Wellness Institute's clinical practice
🧬 Breakthrough Treatment Approaches
- Alternative Cancer Care Protocols Showing Promising Results
- Strategic use of repurposed medications like ivermectin
- Evidence-based natural solutions for chronic conditions
🥩 Personalized Nutrition & Wellness
- Revolutionary insights connecting blood type to dietary needs
- Natural approaches to gout management and inflammation
- Science-backed strategies for conquering sugar cravings
- Solutions for adult-onset asthma through digestive health optimization
✨ Special Segment Celebrate with us as we showcase a stunning gluten-free, purple-themed celebration cake and discuss the joy of healthy indulgence!
Featured Expert: Dr. Ryan Partovi brings 15+ years of integrative medicine expertise, specializing in chronic disease reversal and innovative treatment protocols.
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[00:00:00] Introduction to the Partovi Effect
[00:00:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Welcome. I am Mrs. Madi Partovi
[00:00:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: and I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi
[00:00:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: and in this episode of the Partovi Effect I'd like to share a story about iatrogenic death and medical establishment negligence. Even though I think those words are too soft.
[00:00:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So I'll tell you how my weekend was. You want to know how my weekend was?
[00:00:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I would. I have some sense of it, but yeah, please share.
[00:00:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah.
[00:00:33] A Weekend Story: Family Campout and Hospital Rescue
[00:00:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So we were on a family cub scout camp out. Okay. And in interspersed with being present with the boys and really enjoying witnessing, their delightful way of being and just being out in nature.
[00:00:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I was receiving, it was great
[00:00:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: camp out.
[00:00:54] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It was, it really
[00:00:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: objectively,
[00:00:59] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I was [00:01:00] receiving multiple messages from a family whose loved one was in the hospital with COVID.
[00:01:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So not great.
[00:01:11] Mrs. Madi Partovi: No. And they were strongly requesting a hospital rescue. And so I asked, what state this woman was in.
[00:01:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And she was eight days unresponsive. And in order to do a hospital rescue, there are three qualifications. The patient has to be able to sit up and
[00:01:34] Hospital Protocols and Legal Battles
[00:01:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Just to be clear, these are qualifications that we've come up with out of, dealing with hundreds and many, several hundred now patients with active COVID and where we know we can make a difference and where we're like, Hey, this is, this requires a level of care that it goes beyond what we're able to do remotely and continue.
[00:01:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes, so patient has to be able [00:02:00] to sit up, patient has to be able to answer questions, and patient must be able to eat and consume, eat and drink and consume capsules, their medication.
[00:02:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Correct.
[00:02:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And so this woman had been unresponsive for eight days. And so I did my thing, I was in constant communication, guiding them through providing them with the the hospital, the FLCCC hospital protocol and Ralph Lurigo's information.
[00:02:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: He's an attorney out of New York. Who's helped many families with this kind of thing where the hospital will not, will refuse. To implement, anything on the FLCCC protocol.
[00:02:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So I provided Ralph's information. I provided some, and I just, to protect us legally. Some wild west, suggestions. And Every [00:03:00] single time, this family had conversations with the doctor. Well, I
[00:03:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: just want to clarify that because that I'm, it's not to interrupt you.
[00:03:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I get it. But just to really, so we're straight with our audience. It's it doesn't work for me as a physician to be giving medical advice, A, to someone who's not my patient, B, to somebody that's beyond the realm of where I can care for them. Maddie sometimes, will ask me a question, my opinion about something, and I'll give her my opinion, and then she'll offer her advice as a layperson, but it's just, layperson advice, it's not medical advice, it's not, it's not she's not engaging in the practice of medicine, she's saying, if it were me, this is what I would do.
[00:03:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm being there for a friend.
[00:03:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So at each and every turn and each and every single conversation that they had with the doctors and the medical team there was a refusal to administer anything on the FLCCC protocol. [00:04:00] The family did call Ralph. I'm not sure what the result was there. But I do know that a couple days ago, she texted me and she said that her mother in law's kidneys were failing.
[00:04:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And that the doctors had even refused high dose vitamin C. And they told her they didn't have any. You know how easy a hospital can get that? The pharmacy can order that if they don't have it? If that wasn't a lie?
[00:04:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Same day delivery for sure. Of about a dozen different ways they could get it.
[00:04:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Maybe, well, half a dozen at least.
[00:04:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, and they, even early on, they were denying Ivermectin, they were denying Methylprednisolone and Lovenox, things that would have kept her kidneys from [00:05:00] failing.
[00:05:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Probably anyway.
[00:05:03] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Probably anyway.
[00:05:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah.
[00:05:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: She would have had a better chance.
[00:05:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. A lot of times when in advanced COVID disease, when you have kidney failure, it's because of microangiopathy of the kidneys where there's literally little microscopic blood clots that are forming in the the capillaries, the small blood vessels of the kidneys.
[00:05:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And that's, what's causing the kidney failure. So what you need to do is anticoagulation and you need to do it at a full dose. Which typically is going to be about one milligram per kilogram of of Lovenox per day. Lovenox, for those who don't know, is a low molecular weight heparin. And life saving in advanced COVID disease where, really it's clot formation that's killing people.
[00:05:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Continue.
[00:05:50] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So I I asked her, I checked in with her. She's grateful for, the suggestions I was providing and said that her husband would be talking to the doctors now. [00:06:00] And then I asked her how's your mother in law? Did her doctors listen? And then I got the text.
[00:06:05] A Heartbreaking Outcome
[00:06:05] Mrs. Madi Partovi: She said, hi, Maddie, the doctors did not listen.
[00:06:08] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Unfortunately, I'm here at the hospital as her body is shutting down and she is slowly transitioning.
[00:06:18] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you so much for all your help. My family is very grateful for all your advice.
[00:06:25] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And then I said what I said, and then she said well, I got the text on a couple days ago. Or yes, yesterday. She just passed. It's over. Thank you again for everything.
[00:06:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It's like a flashback to four years ago for me.
[00:06:49] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's not the first one we've experienced. No,
[00:06:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: it's not.
[00:06:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: No. It's like a continued flashback.
[00:06:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it's like the [00:07:00] same repeat conversation that I was having with so many families.
[00:07:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, and they're still using the same treatment too, which is,
[00:07:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, if you didn't understand why it was happening, you'd be like, that's unconscionable. We have so much evidence now. This is absurd. What are they doing? And, and then you remember, oh, it's a for profit medical system. It's not really there for you and your health. I,
[00:07:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: yeah, but I also remember a point where I said, Oh, she can be transferred, you can request her to be transferred to that hospital in Houston where they do administer the FLCCC protocol.
[00:07:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And then you told me they shut that hospital down or that hospital no longer exists.
[00:07:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah,
[00:07:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: that's why dr. Joseph Verone is now the head of the
[00:07:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: well I don't want to say that because I don't know whether that's true or not. Yeah, that's speculation But I would [00:08:00] say that you know what I do think is pretty clear is that they were what they were accused of was basically over billing health insurance providers for different hospital services, and I think COVID tests and, stuff that gets billed all the time and at hospitals.
[00:08:18] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's very clear to me that the accusation which And I told Maddie, I said, I wonder if maybe the American Hospital Association didn't send someone in there as like a plant in their billing department to go and do some fraudulent billing just so that they could catch them doing fraudulent billing and then basically accuse them of it and then, oh, oh, well, I guess we must have had some fraudulent billing that went happen and then, here we are, we're closed.
[00:08:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, the thing about it is I wouldn't put it past them. Being the only hospital in the country that's using a different protocol that everybody knows is about seven and a half times more effective. I think conservatively we say it's four times more effective, but our estimates for our [00:09:00] practice, it's about seven and a half times more effective than the traditional, hospital protocol.
[00:09:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's been in use now for the last almost four years. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty interesting that they went after that particular hospital. I mean, it's pretty suspicious in my mind, just because it's you're getting these fantastic COVID outcomes with COVID pneumonia that nobody else is getting, and then, but you're targeted for, Supposed corruption and, have to shut down as a result.
[00:09:27] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, it's pretty it, it's like, it's like Martha Stewart, right? It's like insider trading. Okay. Maybe a little bit, but one amongst many people, she was sent to jail because she was a woman, in my opinion, who had engaged in insider trading, which at the time she did, it was, a big no.
[00:09:41] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Now, as long as it's your husband doing the, he's doing the insider trading. It's okay, even if you happen to be the, what, Speaker of the House of Representatives. So it's just, the level of corruption in our society is like it is off the chart. So it's hard to say, well, [00:10:00] Because they made these accusations that there's any legitimacy to them.
[00:10:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, maybe there is, but I would just say that even if there is, it's one of those things that every hospital system engages in and every hospital system has engaged in since the beginning of covid. And so the idea that they in particular are being targeted, I find You know, suspicious on the level of Martha Stewart's suspicious.
[00:10:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So for this particular family, can I use her first name?
[00:10:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I'd rather you didn't.
[00:10:30] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay.
[00:10:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: No identifying information.
[00:10:32] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. So for this family, who suffered this tremendous and unjust loss, and the thousands of other families, That have experienced the same thing. I can imagine the grief that you're dealing with.
[00:10:53] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And on top of that, also the confusion. About why,[00:11:00]
[00:11:02] Mrs. Madi Partovi: why these doctors and these hospitals. Wouldn't, administer, especially now, these life saving protocols.
[00:11:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So we stand in solidarity with you, and it's just I want the word to get out that this is still happening.
[00:11:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, and I want the word to get out that early treatment works.
[00:11:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes.
[00:11:37] The Importance of Early COVID Treatment
[00:11:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so please don't wait until your, you or your loved one has been unresponsive in the hospital for eight days to seek out our help. Because obviously there were probably. Dozens, if not hundreds of opportunities along the way that led to that point where we could have intervened and could have made the difference for her.
[00:11:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And yet, waiting till the last [00:12:00] minute, I'm not trying to make anybody wrong here. I get that. Sometimes people feel like, oh, COVID's a nothing burger. You hear that all the time. It's oh, I've already had it once or twice. Well, I hate to break it to you, but the third or fourth or fifth time can often be the time where you're going to end up, especially with long COVID, long haul COVID syndrome.
[00:12:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: But some people who are, really Either the first time they got it, it was maybe Delta and they had received one of the vaccines and so they had a little bit of protection and then, now they're just getting, they're really just getting it for the first time. Or maybe they're actually just literally getting it for the first time because they were locked down and they got lucky and, this is their first round and there's people dying from COVID every day in this country.
[00:12:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And you've got to consider your comorbidities.
[00:12:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I mean if you're over 60, if you're overweight, you have type 1 or type 2 diabetes, liver disease, lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease. Any of those [00:13:00] are all comorbidities. If if you have an increased level of exposure, we would say you're high risk, not technically a comorbidity, but it falls in the same category.
[00:13:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And if, if you have two or more of those, we still recommend ivermectin prophylaxis during the cold flu and COVID season, which is going on right now. And, even if you have one or two of those comorbidities, or even if you have just one of those comorbidities or zero, it's absolutely a good idea to have all of your early treatment stuff lined up, which we, we offer a COVID prep package in our practice.
[00:13:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's one way to make sure you've got all that dialed in, plus it includes up to 30 days of care until you're well, most people get well. If they start treatment on day one, a lot of times people get well within three to five days, which is fantastic. But then if you wait till day five and then you reach out to us, which we still have plenty of those people, then oftentimes it's a 15 to 21 day disease.
[00:13:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And we still have people reaching out to us, day 28 to 29. Hey, I'm still sick from COVID. I [00:14:00] just finished my second round of packs of it. And. Yeah, we can get those people well, but sometimes it takes months, right?
[00:14:07] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And so here is how we can help you.
[00:14:12] COVID Prep Package and Wellness Plan
[00:14:12] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And here's how we can prepare you and your loved ones is with our COVID prep package.
[00:14:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You have all the medications on hand in advance to start on day one of symptoms. You have access to a world class team who will treat you for up to 30 days or until you're well and guide you through the process and make sure that spike protein doesn't accumulate in your body and start wreaking havoc.
[00:14:42] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So for anybody that is new to the practice, new to Aspen Wellness Institute, you can purchase a Covid Prep package. Down in the show notes, the investment is 3. 95. For anybody who's already purchased a COVID prep package in the past and been treated by [00:15:00] us, your next COVID prep package is 2. 95.
[00:15:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's like a renewal.
[00:15:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. And for anybody that's on our wellness plan, you pay a one time 3. 95. And you will receive unlimited lifetime treatment of COVID, active COVID, as long as you're on our wellness plan. I just want to pause right there so that
[00:15:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I mean really our goal is to try to get as many people into the realm of early treatment as possible.
[00:15:35] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And to really get the word out. I mean, you never want, there's no guarantees in life. But I would You know, everything short of a guarantee say that woman would be alive today if she had been, treating on day one with the COVID prep package. I just, I can't imagine her ending up in the hospital.
[00:15:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I can't, we haven't had anybody go to the hospital for COVID since we started using the early treatment protocol and [00:16:00] people who are, people who are using it, the protocol we're using now, which we've been using since, It's beginning of, I want to say 2022 it's we've had 100 percent success rate.
[00:16:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Those who are treated in the first three days, nobody's progressed to pneumonia. Nobody's gone to the hospital. I mean, it's been literally a hundred percent success rate amongst those patients. So
[00:16:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And there are some things that will likely be happening this season for you coming up, family gatherings, large gatherings, you'll likely be consuming, extra carbs and sugar and alcohol.
[00:16:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It's not going to be a good mix
[00:16:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: season of indulgence, the
[00:16:40] Mrs. Madi Partovi: season of indulgence.
[00:16:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So I just think. Again, just emphasizing that early treatment is really crucial. Please reach out to us. Please, click on the link in the show [00:17:00] notes to get your COVID prep package now. Okay.
[00:17:06] Addressing Community Questions
[00:17:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'd like to address some of the questions that have been coming in from our community. Okay.
[00:17:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I just wanted to add one other thing about that, which is that, I always recommend some, that people who are new to the practice start with either the PrEP package or the wellness plan plus the PrEP package.
[00:17:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And when you've, and you can, if you're taking ivermectin preventively because it helps against pretty much any RNA virus. If you're taking it prophylactically during the season and, you get through, because initially I think it comes with a couple of refills and then once you've gone through those, we have a couple of different options for ongoing prevention for people who want to take it either during the season or even year round.
[00:17:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Because there's people with fatty liver or have other chronic conditions where they benefit from taking ivermectin year round, we do have options for those as well.
[00:17:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Fatty liver, high blood pressure. [00:18:00]
[00:18:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: We've had patients, yeah, I mean, so in the studies, the big study that looked at ivermectin for prevention, we saw improvements in blood pressure for people with high blood pressure, improvements in blood sugar for people who had high blood sugar.
[00:18:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Improvements in kidney function improvements in reduction in elevated liver enzymes, again, for people with non alcoholic fatty liver disease or fatty liver. We saw reduction in autoimmune symptoms, and we've seen that we have patients that take ivermectin ongoing because it helps with their autoimmune condition, because it does have broad anti inflammatory effects and immune modulatory effects.
[00:18:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: There's also some evidence to indicate that there may be some reason to think that it might help recurrence of certain cancers. And so we have patients that are you know, in remission from cancer and want to, be on some kind of a preventive ivermectin for that purpose. There's a lot of potential reasons.
[00:18:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, we've had patients come off of three or four different blood pressure medications after being, after treating them from COVID. And they say, well, [00:19:00] and then they run out of their ivermectin and they're like, my blood pressure has come back up. I need to have a refill on my ivermectin. I said, good.
[00:19:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Cause you know, ivermectin is dealing with the inflammation, which is underlying that that blood pressure being elevated to begin with, and, ivermectin is a soil bacteria derivative. It has a parabiotic effect, and I think that ultimately it's a much more natural intervention than pretty much any, standard blood pressure medication for that reason.
[00:19:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: One of the ways it's working is Rewiring our gut microbiome in a way that I think is beneficial to metabolism, beneficial to long term health, and I'm a big fan, obviously.
[00:19:35] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you.
[00:19:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Sure.
[00:19:37] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. I'll use initials, okay? Is that okay?
[00:19:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Go for it. Yeah, that's fine.
[00:19:42] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. This is from Mr.
[00:19:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: M. J. Good morning, Dr. Portovi and Maddie. I just watched your spike protein wreaking havoc the hidden health crisis. It's very good. It did, however, raise some questions I've been storing the past couple years, if I may. Since first [00:20:00] contacting you a few years ago, I've been watching my health slash diet.
[00:20:05] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I tend not to contact you as I feel I'm healthy and try not to bother. Having stated this, I do have a couple questions which your video triggered. I received a bagful
[00:20:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: What I have been experiencing are mild. I get welts or rashes frequently. I got a few, I believe, horsefly bites, which took months to go away, and a couple still persist. Terrible itching. I was hit with gout, which lingered for a few months, and I do not feel I totally recovered. I was quite interested in the blood type diet you were referring to.
[00:20:40] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I am A positive. I have been on the carnivore BBBE and fasting recently. When eating regularly, I eat lots of vegetables and fermented foods as well. I try to only get organic and or local foods. Any advice on sugar cravings? The only [00:21:00] thing I cannot eliminate Or control. I do great for a while, and then I can't I'm going to
[00:21:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: pause you because you've already gone over three questions.
[00:21:07] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay. Remember, I can only handle one at a time.
[00:21:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay, got it. So
[00:21:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Just Let's go back to the first question and ask that.
[00:21:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay.
[00:21:14] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And then you, if you want to do more questions, we can do more.
[00:21:18] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. Well, it's like he makes statements that I was hit with gout, which lingered for a few months, and I don't feel totally recovered.
[00:21:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So is there a question mark anywhere in the question? That is helpful, by the way, if you're going to be submitting questions, please put a question mark after each question. And I'm happy to answer all of them.
[00:21:36] Mrs. Madi Partovi: He's had too many weird questions. My apologies, but here. Okay, let me start with this. Okay.
[00:21:43] Blood Type Diet and Personalized Medicine
[00:21:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So he said he's interested in the blood type diet.
[00:21:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So his body is the wisdom of his body is calling. Something very important for him, especially as a blood type a positive. Okay. That's on a carnivore diet. So why don't you address that first? Okay. Because, especially because he has [00:22:00] gout, and that he's not feeling totally recovered.
[00:22:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So why don't we start there?
[00:22:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, well, I mean, actually the first thing that came up for me in your, in reading, which I feel, would feel remiss if I didn't touch on it, was my question would be, has he had his anti spike protein antibody titers checked? Because and I don't know whether this is someone who's been our patient at all, but I don't know.
[00:22:22] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: To me anti spike protein antibody titers are going to give us a sense of whether you may have long COVID long haul COVID syndrome and not even know it. There's a lot of people who, have COVID, they get better. And then a couple of weeks later, they have some seemingly unrelated symptom that's actually related to COVID.
[00:22:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And the way we distinguish that is through the anti spike protein antibody titer test. We offer that for 60. Just the test itself is covered by insurance. The 60 covers any ordering the test, sending you the requisition, then you go and get it filled. Your insurance covers it. So far it's been a hundred percent of the time.
[00:22:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I don't think we've had anybody's insurance decline it [00:23:00] yet. We get the result back and then I send you the interpretation along with a copy of your result, and then you get to choose where you go from there. I would say in our practice, it's been about 50 50 in terms of the normal result, and people who are abnormal, and, sometimes it's really helpful.
[00:23:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: People are like, hey, I've had this issue ever since COVID and we can tell them like, hey, it's, it doesn't really seem like it's COVID related. I mean, it may be. Associated chronologically. But this is probably something that would have happened to you regardless. Alternatively, if the result is abnormal, then we can say, well, you should probably treat for long COVID first and then see if your symptoms get better.
[00:23:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so far, I would say the answer to that has been a resounding yes, pretty much across the board in terms of the efficacy of treating for the long COVID or the vaccinosis, vaccine injury. And then that. having the ripple effect of dealing with whatever the symptom is, whether it be autoimmunity or, some brain fog or [00:24:00] cardiovascular issues.
[00:24:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, we've seen it all. That
[00:24:03] Mrs. Madi Partovi: spike protein test, that 60 for a lot of people has been, has altered the trajectory of their life.
[00:24:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:24:12] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And some people test quarterly because It's not like you test once and then your levels are fine, and then you're fine for the rest of your life.
[00:24:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: There are different exposures, that you go through when you live life. And when you travel and when you get exposed to people and each time you get COVID untreated.
[00:24:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Well, and see, that's the thing is some people get COVID and they don't realize that they had COVID. And so maybe they didn't treat.
[00:24:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And we've had patients where maybe even we treated them the first time they had COVID, but then they ended up getting COVID a second or third time and they didn't bother getting treated. And then we check their antibody titers and they're elevated. And it's well, probably because they didn't treat the second or third time,
[00:24:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: okay. So Mr. MJ, you could start there.
[00:24:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, that, well, that's what I was going to say. I think that's the obvious. place to [00:25:00] start. Carnivore diet, I don't recommend that for blood type A's. There's different types of A's and we get into that with our practice looking at genotype, which is like the epigenetic archetype of the individual.
[00:25:10] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So there are A's with kind of the, that are explorers who need to be on, who don't follow the typical, A high soy diet. They on a high red meat diet? No, I don't really recommend a high red meat diet for any type A's. An A explorer may be able to have a little more lamb than say an A teacher or a warrior would, but that's the beauty of personalized medicine with the software we use, really delve in and get all your, measurements and it looks at genetics, epigenetics, which is like the blood control settings on the genes, family health history, personal health history, presenting symptoms lab data, biometrics, which are measurements of the body.
[00:25:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: We put all that in the computer program. And it performs 12 million calculations and generates an individualized nutrition plan, recipe book, meal planner for that person [00:26:00] where they are right then on their health journey. It's not surprising to me to hear that, hey, cultured vegetables and things like that are what you naturally gravitate toward.
[00:26:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it's also not surprising to me that you might have gout, especially on a carnivore diet, just because for some people, what really perpetuates the gout is more of a candida overgrowth, because candida can produce gout, or sorry, uric acid as a byproduct but for a lot of people it is purine consumption, too much meat is in their body, just has a hard time eliminating it.
[00:26:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: There's other things that can also affect gout and purine elimination, purine purine creation, but mostly purine elimination. Sometimes they're not, they don't have enough vitamin C. I mean, there's, vitamin C helps eliminate uric acid. And there's other things that can get into the inflammation of the joints.
[00:26:50] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Well, first of all, my type A's out there don't have the sufficient level of stomach acids to digest. Large amounts of beef, [00:27:00] especially if they're eating beef every day.
[00:27:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, I mean, that's that's true. I don't know if it's directly related to the gout piece, maybe, I'd have to think about it some more, but I mean, I think it's true that type A's have the lowest level of stomach acid followed by A B's, followed by B's, and then type O's have the highest level of stomach acid production on average.
[00:27:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: The other thing I would just say is that non secretors typically have lower levels And you may be a non secreter. It's hard to say. Non secreters tend to have more cardiometabolic issues in general. And I'm not sure about gout, though. That's an interesting question. I'd have to look that up. Very pos very possibly.
[00:27:44] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay. Well, I wanted to the last thing I wanted to address was his sugar cravings. And that might be a fundamental deficiency in some
[00:27:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Chromium? Yeah, it could be that. Could be candida overgrowth. I already mentioned that. That can [00:28:00] be tied to gout. I think that for most type A's in my mind, if you're getting enough complex carbohydrates, I can't imagine why you'd be getting sugar cravings.
[00:28:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Now I can imagine a typo on a diet where they're not able to sufficiently liberate enough glycogenic amino acids from the diet because they're on a carnivore diet might have sugar cravings just because they're having carb cravings, right? Because their body is really needing some glucose and having trouble getting any.
[00:28:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So yeah, I mean, I think that's reasonable, but there's, you can take the, there's a lot of ways to deal with sugar cravings. I find that typically when people are off of refined sugar for three months after about 90 days of zero refined sugars, those will typically go away. If the rest of the diet is good and in alignment with your physiology, I don't really find people continue to have sugar cravings.
[00:28:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Now there's such a thing as sugar addiction, which I personally struggle [00:29:00] with. Which is you can't just have a little bit of it. It's if you're going to have some, it's Oh God, it's your tendency is to want to gorge. And I think that is that's a real phenomenon.
[00:29:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And to me, I think the solution that I've found that works for me is really, A, be mindful of that. And B, don't really have any sugar, find other things, other sweet things that are not refined sugar to help. deal with that. And, that's the interesting thing about having a keto cookie that's made with, monk fruit sweetener, is that you're really not going to want to sit there and have a dozen of them, after three or four, it's they're so heavy, and there's so much fat in them.
[00:29:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And the sweet is just not that. It's not the kind of sweet that you can just eat forever, and that's actually a really good thing, I think, if you have sugar cravings. Yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of those are type A friendly things, so it's not like you have to a type A, you've got to eat a bunch of refined sugars.
[00:29:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I think it's the opposite, actually. I mean, the warrior diet is a pretty low grain diet, actually. And that's, a lot of type A's, I would [00:30:00] say. I don't know the exact percentage, but I know that about I think the majority of warriors are type A's, for sure. And lot of A's that struggle with sugar and, glycation and processing of sugars.
[00:30:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: are warriors. That's their epigenetic archetype. And they need to be on frankly, a little bit lower carb, but not a zero carb diet. I mean, it's not a, it's not a zero carb diet, but it's a lower carb. It's not like this grain heavy diet. I think people think of, when they think of type A's, they think of just, Oh, eat as many grains as you want, but that's not the case for either warrior type A's or explorer type A's, the, Those two genotypes need to stay away from unmitigated carbs.
[00:30:41] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's pretty much the teachers that can
[00:30:44] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, you know that But
[00:30:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: even they, I mean, have their limits, so
[00:30:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: You would learn so much about this in the wellness plan. And if, And that
[00:30:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: book changed your genetic destiny. Frankly, I mean all of these different categories I'm talking about all the six genotypes, they're [00:31:00] all in there and there's profiles.
[00:31:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And as a type A, you can be either a teacher, a warrior, or an explorer. Based on your clinical history, I'm going to guess either a warrior or an explorer. But, you never know. But the beautiful thing about doing the wellness plan is it includes SWAMI, which is a software that's going to basically calculate all that out for you.
[00:31:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So you don't have to worry about it. It includes the kit that you need to collect the information to put into the software. So it's really a one stop shop, comprehensive approach rather than trying to piecemeal it. All right. Especially if you're
[00:31:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: already interested in. Up leveling your health and you're, eating healthy and you're already purchasing organic foods.
[00:31:41] Mrs. Madi Partovi: This is like that, that missing puzzle piece that will alchemize everything. It's going to be so beautiful. So listen to this. Mr. MJ, and then I'll reach out to you and have a conversation with you. Okay.
[00:31:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I would just say about that before we move on to the next one is [00:32:00] just that it's really important for people to remember that there is no one size fits all diet for each individual.
[00:32:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think that's one of the common mistakes that's made. And it's often made in the integrative holistic community. I mean, we see that even in, I mean, I'm the last one in the world who ever say anything that's remotely negative about the FL triple C. But I will say that I think one of the blind spots of the organization is that there's a tendency to go along with, Oh, everybody should just go keto, or that's going to work for everybody.
[00:32:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think the answer is there is evidence that time delayed eating, I would say it can be helpful for most people. But the time delay does vary on the individual for sure. And you have to customize that. And to me, intermittent fasting, where you're literally taking days off of eating there's costs to that in terms of muscle mass.
[00:32:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think that we could probably do a whole episode on that.
[00:32:50] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes.
[00:32:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah.
[00:32:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Alright, thank you.
[00:32:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Sure.
[00:32:53] Addressing Neuropathy and Cancer Treatment
[00:32:53] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Alright this next question is from Miss J. T. She's dealing with [00:33:00] cancer. She said, hello. She
[00:33:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: said, what kind of cancer?
[00:33:04] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I would have to do a little digging.
[00:33:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay.
[00:33:06] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So there, the neuropathy has worsened since last chemo infusion, but was present pre chemo.
[00:33:14] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Would Dr. Ryan consider a paid consult regarding the neuropathy specifically if he has some insight into dealing with it? It's a notoriously hard thing to treat. I've spent over 2, 000 so far with CNAR and software treatments. With no improvement. I don't yet have my arterial Doppler test results. B vitamin levels have been good, but I want to get them retested since the chemo.
[00:33:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm now using an antifolate, and they supplement for folic acid versus methylated folate. Not sure if I impaired circulatory or nerve damage dysfunction is main. Ethology? Let me know.
[00:33:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Etiology.
[00:33:59] Mrs. Madi Partovi: [00:34:00] Etiology.
[00:34:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Cause.
[00:34:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And let me know if a consult and follow up is needed, is recommended and appropriate.
[00:34:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: What was the sentence before the etiology?
[00:34:11] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay, if it's impaired circulatory or a nerve jam. Yeah, I mean. Okay,
[00:34:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Hold
[00:34:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: on. Go ahead.
[00:34:16] Holistic Approach to Consultations
[00:34:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So I'm going to address this question about a one off paid consult.
[00:34:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, we don't do that.
[00:34:22] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We don't do that. It doesn't have integrity for us. To take your money for a one stop shop because Dr. Ryan will only be able I wouldn't
[00:34:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: say one stop shop.
[00:34:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I would say for, people looking for a one trick pony would probably be the better analogy here, right? Because our approach is fundamentally holistic, right? Do you want me to speak to this or
[00:34:42] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I just want to say that. Yeah, so it doesn't have integrity for us to take your money for a one time, consultation Because.
[00:34:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Because I'm not a woman. Because, here it is, okay? You, Dr. Ryan, will only [00:35:00] be able to talk talk about possibilities and not bring these possibilities into fruition, which take time, and over, Over almost 15 years of practice, you've seen so much, you've seen the power of your, the kind of medicine that you practice and the science that you practice.
[00:35:23] Mrs. Madi Partovi: alter people's lives. I mean, it works. It works for those that are coachable. So that's what I have to say. What do you have to contribute to miss? Well,
[00:35:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: What I have to say to miss JT and anybody else, who's looking for single issue consoles.
[00:35:38] The Importance of Accountability in Treatment
[00:35:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I would just say that Because of the fact that it's a holistic practice, because of the fact that we're looking at the cause and we have to do investigations, we have to do lab work and figure out, okay, what is the cause?
[00:35:49] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I'm happy to answer those kinds of questions on the podcast so everybody can benefit from them. But in terms of dealing with an individual, the reason why we have people commit to working with us for at least a year is because [00:36:00] that's what we found works. We tried the one off consult thing.
[00:36:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: The problem is that people will often, because they're not committed. What will often happen is that you're going to have a group of people that do really well, and then they feel like, oh, I got it. I don't need any more follow up. And then six months, nine months, a year later, they're back where they started because they don't have a structure in which they are held accountable.
[00:36:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: To the changes that they've made. And then the other group of people you have are people who either didn't implement anything or they only tried some of it and it didn't work. And so because of that, they get discouraged and they obviously are still not following up. And the only way to come back around and say, okay, well, here's what you didn't do.
[00:36:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Here's what would have made a difference. Or, okay, you did this, but you didn't do this. Let's try this next. Right. Is to actually have that structure of accountability. So Regardless of the trajectory of the first three months, having a [00:37:00] structure of accountability actually is what works to have life work and to have treatment work.
[00:37:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so that's why we have everybody commit to working with us for at least a year is because it's what actually works for them at the end of the day, whether they realize it or not, whether they want to accept that or not. That's what we have learned works for people. For humans including us, we have to have a structure in which we live our lives.
[00:37:22] Exploring B Vitamins and Neuropathy
[00:37:22] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Otherwise, it's it's just it's transformation has an extremely short shelf life as the famous saying goes specifically around the question of neuropathy, specifically related to chemo, I would say that it is possible that B vitamin, specifically B12, could be at play here.
[00:37:38] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's worth it to look at the, look at your genetics, look at the vitamin D receptor, look at the methylfolate. look at the COM T and see okay, well, should I really be doing hydroxycobalamin, maybe methylcobalamin, maybe adenosylcobalamin, figure out which forms of vitamin B12 you really should be supplementing.
[00:37:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Can look at MMA, methylmalonic acid, [00:38:00] you can look at homocysteine, you can look at, serum B12. Sometimes that's going to show, I mean, if it does show a frank deficiency, that's a pretty clear cut, yep, you need to supplement B12. But those are not always going to be as revealing as one would hope.
[00:38:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: The other thing is you have to use a really narrow narrow reference range for homocysteine, which is about 5. 5 to 7, which, frankly most doctors don't do, but that's really where you want to see it. And, methylmalonic acid isn't even the high normal range. I would say that's high.
[00:38:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And B12, if it's not at least 800, then it's, it's at least suboptimal. So I would keep that in mind. Being on methotrexate and then being on folic acid really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. My understanding is you really want to be in, this is not necessarily my area of expertise, but I have some knowledge of it.
[00:38:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: My understanding is you really want to be on calcium folinate, which is folinic acid, if you're on methotrexate. Because that's the one that will bypass the step [00:39:00] which methotrexate is trying to block. That's my understanding there. Really the guru on this is what's his name? The seeking health guy.
[00:39:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's going to come to me in a second. Dr. Lynch, Ben Lynch, he's the guru on methylfolate. And I know he would know that answer off the top of his head, but I would say that, my understanding is if you're on methotrexate, excuse me, then calcium folinate or, and, or even MTHF is, the five methyl tetrahydrofolate is really are much better choices.
[00:39:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Frankly, supplementing with folic acid, I think is generally a mistake and something which. There's even been some negative toxicity reports associated with, and I haven't delved into that deeply, but I just know that's what the word on the street right now in the integrative, holistic, naturopathic world is regarding folate folate supplementation is that folic acid is not what you want to be doing, so I would just make sure it's, Not actually folic acid, that it's folinic acid or [00:40:00] calcium fate is another term for that.
[00:40:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Or five methyl touch hydro folate is fine too. And then, but I gotta say all of that, interesting conversation aside, really where I find most of the issue in neuropathy related to chemo is she did say it present. It does chemo. It does depend on the chemo. I hear you.
[00:40:23] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay. And that's why I spent so much time on the B vitamin stuff because that's certainly a possibility, it's also not, it's also not an either or it could be that there was some B vitamin deficiency and now that's now been, has something superimposed on top of it, which is mitochondrial toxicity, which is what I was about to get into.
[00:40:43] Mitochondrial Toxicity and Chemotherapy
[00:40:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So I think that it's very possible that with mitochondrial toxicity. That you do see with a lot of different chemos and mitochondrial toxicity could be some of the underlying cause of the cancer to begin with, right? That can be part of what sets you up for impaired detoxification, increased [00:41:00] oxidative damage and, DNA damage, which can lead to the cancer.
[00:41:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: But Yeah, I think that alpha lipoic acid, specifically R lipoic acid, also known as thiotic acid, can be really helpful, both orally as well as IV, and sometimes you may need to use, higher doses, like 300 to 600 milligrams of R lipoic acid, orally per day, and you may need to use other mitochondrial support, things like PQQ and CoQ10, Ubiquinol, there's some evidence that if you have a really well absorbed CoQ10, it doesn't necessarily have to be Ubiquinol, but then some people, some studies indicate maybe Ubiquinol is a little better.
[00:41:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So it just depends on the form, I would say, and the absorb, the absorption. capacity of it. I certainly have brands that I like and recommend, but I don't, we don't get into that on the podcast unless they start paying us for it.
[00:41:53] IV Treatments and Finding Local Support
[00:41:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: But yeah, I mean, the other thing I would say is IV, the MVA IVs, which are basically IV alpha lipoic [00:42:00] acid that are used a lot of times adjunctively in cancer, I think would be a wise approach.
[00:42:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: For dealing with specifically neuropathy secondary to either cancer and or the treatment of cancer. And I mean, we certainly have people that we know who do them. I mean, in. San Diego County, we have some couple of friends of mine that I went to school with who do those kinds of IVs and I have a friend in Scottsdale, Arizona, who does them and we have, I have friends either all over the country or there's, I can always find someone.
[00:42:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, we had this patient who reached out to us who's, Where? Some small town in Arkansas, and we managed to find an IV place that does even things like methylene blue IVs and NAD plus IVs in this small town in Arkansas. So that was pretty cool. The point is they're out there and we can find them for people who are patients.
[00:42:53] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: We're happy to do that. And that's That's what I have to say about that. I mean, it's, and then, there's obviously, with the [00:43:00] circulatory stuff, that's a whole nother can of worms. And we can obviously it does depend to some degree again on the chemo and there's, car potential cardiac issues involved in there and that one sort of becomes way too complex to just opine on, off the cuff.
[00:43:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: But I would say that it's something that. Certainly we could investigate inside of a therapeutic relationship and be happy to do that.
[00:43:20] Cancer Care Options and Ivermectin
[00:43:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And on that note we do have three levels of of cancer care from, ivermectin prescriptions and access to monthly Q and A's to custom cancer care.
[00:43:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And that will also be in the in the show notes.
[00:43:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I can't remember. Have we talked about ivermectin for cancer?
[00:43:42] Mrs. Madi Partovi: During the first episode, maybe first.
[00:43:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Maybe yeah
[00:43:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: episode. Yeah.
[00:43:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, so there's some really interesting There's a couple of clinical trials and then a lot of really interesting in vitro And in silico research looking at ivermectin and different types of cancer So it's a really promising and then we've had some really [00:44:00] promising anecdotes case studies that have been really promising.
[00:44:03] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, I just want to read one. Can I read one?
[00:44:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean if you want to But I would just say before you do that, because of that, it's just, because of four, four billion doses administered, 3, 000 adverse events reported statistically safer than Tylenol, safer than aspirin. It's like, why should this not be available to people who want to add it into their cancer therapy?
[00:44:24] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And so that's really the way to think about option one, is it's really people who are, they've already got an oncologist, they're already working on their cancer through other means, but they want to add the ivermectin piece in and their oncologist doesn't know enough about it, doesn't feel comfortable that we can support people with that, and then option two is for people who really want to do a more comprehensive repurposed drug based approach to their cancer, which, the FLCC has the protocol that Dr.
[00:44:51] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Merrick has developed for the repurposing of a lot of different generic drugs for cancer treatment. And again, all that can be done [00:45:00] alongside traditional chemo radiation surgery. It's not an either or kind of thing. But option two really gives you access to that full protocol, but in a sort of a DIY form where you can really take it on and do as much or as little of it as you'd like to and still come on and, consult with me on the monthly calls and get my advice and feedback.
[00:45:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And, this is what I would recommend doing and. We're not doing. And then option three is, did you talk about option three much?
[00:45:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: No, go ahead, please.
[00:45:28] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. Option three is really the comprehensive, cancer care where regardless, you still have to have, a local primary care doctor, but for people who are, the conventional medical establishment has washed their hands of you and said, there's nothing more we can do for you.
[00:45:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Or for people who are just looking at more of a comprehensive natural option that can be a really good option because it's a customized really targeted approach. Now, a lot of times what I'll do in that, inside that approach is say, well, I want you to [00:46:00] go get. Your primary tumor removed, and here's a medical, here's a surgical oncologist who will actually do it.
[00:46:05] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I know you saw this other guy, he said he wouldn't do it, but I know somebody, and here's the person who should do it and they will. Sometimes they won't, and then of course we'll try to approach things as many different ways as we can. But a lot of times, finding an oncologist who's willing to work with you, maybe to try immunotherapies before traditional chemotherapy, which is something which is very radical in the conventional oncologic world, but it's something which to me is pretty uncontroversial.
[00:46:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: They're doing it in a lot of other countries. There's a lot of reason to do that because the long term side effects of a lot of the immunotherapies are a lot fewer than a lot of the long term side effects of traditional what we like to call somewhat not affectionately slash and burn chemo.
[00:46:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And our view is really that slash and burn chemo is probably a better last ditch option than a first ditch option. And I think that's again, pretty radical if you're [00:47:00] coming from conventional oncology, but if you look at the latest evidence it's not as radical as one might think, but a lot of times what our goal is as a practice is to try to bring the latest evidence to the person.
[00:47:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Obviously, we can't do chemo. That's not part of what we do, but we can find you a local oncologist who doesn't necessarily work as part of the hospital system. They're in private practice. 20, 30 percent of doctors still with the freedom to practice medicine. And we coach you and okay, how do you communicate with these guys such that they'll be willing to.
[00:47:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Give you the the treatment that the evidence supports and that you'd like to try before you try the slash and burn method. And so that's a lot of what we do as well is actually helping facilitate in that option three, helping to facilitate the correct intelligent choice of which.
[00:47:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: biomedical interventions are most likely to be a benefit. There's a specific testing that we do to help facilitate that [00:48:00] determination, even help us find clinical trials. So anyway, you get, you got me on a subject, which I'm excited about. So feel free to interrupt me.
[00:48:11] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Well, I I wanted to read this because the, these lives I mean, we celebrate news like this.
[00:48:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And I remember getting this message, Anna. Our office manager texted me and showed me the screenshot and I just, I took pause and I leaned against the, the wall in the hall and I started to tear up, and when I shared it with you, you just had this really beautiful refreshing reaction, to it.
[00:48:44] Mrs. Madi Partovi: But this is from Mrs. What,
[00:48:45] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: What was my reaction? You have to remind me.
[00:48:47] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Oh gosh. It was of, you said we were doing God's work.
[00:48:56] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it occurred to me as if you were humbled by [00:49:00] that.
[00:49:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: So this is from Miss M D. I would like to report to you and your staff that since I have been on the ivermectin, two scans have showed no activity of the tumor or any activity of cancer throughout my body.
[00:49:20] Mrs. Madi Partovi: PetScan. Thank you all for what you do for us.
[00:49:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: All right. Exciting.
[00:49:35] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes. Yeah. I look forward to our all of our cancer patients experiencing a transformation in what they're dealing with.
[00:49:46] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah.
[00:49:48] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Okay.
[00:49:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And we certainly, where we're coming from is that's certainly possible. And that kind of result is possible for every single one of them.
[00:49:55] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes.
[00:49:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And it may not be as simple as adding an ivermectin for everyone, but that's certainly a [00:50:00] part of it. And also part of it is finding the right dose. And the nice thing about what we, what the alliance we've created with Natural Med Choice, is they have the ability to offer ivermectin at any dose, at the same price.
[00:50:15] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So what that means is that as cancer patients need to increase their dose, sometimes double or even quadruple their dose, that they can do that without it necessarily costing them any more, which is literally a lifesaver.
[00:50:27] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. You don't have to deal with any pharmacies that, either will not dispense medication anymore or have been shut down or yeah, we will support you with all of that.
[00:50:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Or who charge per milligram. Right? And that's a big thing, especially with cancer dosing, is where you need to really escalate the milligram amount. You're stuck between trying to source your ivermectin from some other country where it may or may not even be legitimate, or paying astronomical prices.
[00:50:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And that's a devil's bargain.
[00:50:57] Mrs. Madi Partovi: That's something that we're very [00:51:00] soulfully committed to, that These medications be accessible to everyone.
[00:51:06] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, and people not be in that, not be put in that situation. Yeah.
[00:51:13] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. Next question. Final question. Okay,
[00:51:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: good.
[00:51:17] Mrs. Madi Partovi: One of our beloved friends, Mr.
[00:51:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: S H, would like us to, would like us to, I know
[00:51:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: who that is.
[00:51:27] Mrs. Madi Partovi: We love you so much. LPR and GERD. I know that's a very broad, he said, talk about LPR and GERD.
[00:51:39] LPR and GERD: Causes and Treatments
[00:51:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So he's dealing with or his question is about laryngopharyngeal reflux or LPR and GERD, you said? Yeah. Well, to me laryngopharyngeal reflux, or what we will now be calling LPR for the rest of this episode is [00:52:00] really it's a subset of GERD. So GERD disease. And what's happening there is that stomach acid levels are not high enough.
[00:52:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: in the stomach. And because the stomach acid levels are not high enough, you end up with the lower esophageal sphincter, which is the sphincter at the bottom of the esophagus, right where it attaches to the stomach. That remains patent, it remains open, and so you get reflux of the stomach contents, usually at least some acid, and that can cause some erosive esophagitis.
[00:52:33] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It can cause. Ultimately, even certain types of cancers can be associated with it if it continues on long enough. But heartburn is the most common symptom, right? LPR is where you don't actually have the heartburn symptom, but you do end up with reactive airway disease, which can often be like diagnosed as adult onset asthma.
[00:52:54] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And the interesting thing about about that is that it's adult onset asthma that then [00:53:00] if you treat by either doing digestive bitters, you treat it as if it were GERD. So you treat this reflux through Doing either digestive bitters or digestive bitters, which, digestive bitters have to be taken typically within five minutes of when you start to eat.
[00:53:19] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: They really help and stimulate that acid production. You should try to start with that as well as like matching the diet to the blood type and the secretor status and genotype and all of that. And if if that's not sufficient, then we can actually supplement hydrochloric acid through the form of betaine HCl.
[00:53:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And there's a couple different ways, philosophically that people do that. Some people will do it until the symptoms go away. Some people will do it until the patient actually gets worse heartburn, and then back off. Because it's actually, at that point, not heartburn it's actual gastritis.
[00:53:55] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So the question is, is the correct dose of BTNHCL the amount that [00:54:00] relieves symptoms or amount just below the amount that's going to cause gastritis? And like I said, there's two schools of thought there. I don't have a strong opinion either way. I'm absolutely willing to guide patients through whichever approach makes the most sense to them or want, that they want to try.
[00:54:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Honestly, I find most of my patients respond really well to dietary change. Following a serotype specific diet, genotype and secretor status specific diet, as well as occasionally taking some digestive bitters. So I really don't find that we have to really resort to the betaine HCL that often, especially if also we get, do a nice gut cleanse and which we do that with all of our new patients on the wellness plan and the gut cleanse kind of resets everything, gets the microbiome where it should be.
[00:54:48] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And that's also going to facilitate.
[00:54:52] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Well, it's going to facilitate the correct microbial balance, which will also facilitate the correct acid production, because the one thing you have to keep in [00:55:00] mind is that there are specific bacteria, including H. pylori is probably the most famous one that actually inhibits stomach acid production.
[00:55:09] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So one of the sort of probable underdiagnosed causes of LPR in my mind would be H. pylori overgrowth. In the stomach. And so a lot of times, you treat the H pylori, which initial gut cleanse we do contain specific lectins that actually help bind H pylori and eliminate it through the gut. And then you get stomach acid level, stomach acid production back up.
[00:55:32] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: That lower esophageal sphincter closes, the LPIR ends, and there's the LPRNs, and then you end up with a reduction, if not elimination, in the asthma symptoms. Now, there's a lot of different causes of reactive airway disease, adult onset asthma. We talked a little bit about that before, I think, and at least some of the recordings that we've made, I don't know if any of them have made it to the podcast yet, but I do know that that's definitely a [00:56:00] deep well to to plum, if you will.
[00:56:03] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think we could probably have a whole episode just on adult onset asthma and etiology of it and different or different etiologies of it and why it's so often called it. Thank you. asthma when it's probably more likely or more accurately called reactive airway disease, and whether they're even such a thing as adult onset asthma and whether, whether asthma is a necessary diagnosis to begin with, or if it's really a function of modern lifestyle.
[00:56:36] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: So maybe we'll do an asthma episode. That'd be interesting. Yeah.
[00:56:41] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Thank you.
[00:56:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Sure.
[00:56:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Mr. SH, we love you and we miss you.
[00:56:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Amen.
[00:56:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right.
[00:56:51] Acknowledgements and Personal Reflections
[00:56:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'd like to end with an acknowledgement of you actually,
[00:56:57] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Whenever you acknowledge me, I feel like I need to [00:57:00] acknowledge you. So
[00:57:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: you don't have to,
[00:57:02] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I don't have to. So for the husbands and men out there, that means you have to know.
[00:57:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: That's what that means.
[00:57:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Although, words are my number one love language. Number
[00:57:13] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: one love language. I know. So
[00:57:16] Mrs. Madi Partovi: there's a one of our wellness plan patients who recently got diagnosed with a high chance of developing Alzheimer's. Is that correct? Yeah. And she's been in quite a bit of distress and sadness, and she, And grief, she lost her husband recently, and she recognized
[00:57:39] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: COVID
[00:57:40] Mrs. Madi Partovi: to COVID.
[00:57:41] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, that's an important piece of that story, in my opinion.
[00:57:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And she recognized the news of this as another grieving process. Like reading back to back and, in, [00:58:00] I'm privy to your text exchange with each other and the way that you, with your 10 minute, 12 minute voiced voice messages that you're really not only
[00:58:19] Mrs. Madi Partovi: providing a clear pathway, to treat it and to empower her,
[00:58:28] Mrs. Madi Partovi: but you do something that's so distinct You are a human being there and supporting and loving on another human being.
[00:58:43] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And I just, when I see her respond with all the
[00:58:51] Mrs. Madi Partovi: love in return and the emojis and the hearts and and the ease[00:59:00]
[00:59:01] Mrs. Madi Partovi: that she experiences through your words.
[00:59:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: It's just it really has me be present to the man that you are.
[00:59:14] Mrs. Madi Partovi: There's no division, really. That love extends to everybody. The way that it extends to me and our boys.
[00:59:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I mean, I think if they're a call for it, they're a request for it.
[00:59:29] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:59:31] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah.
[00:59:33] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And it's really that care is really potent. Absolutely. and palpable and extraordinary. So thank you.
[00:59:42] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. Well, thank you. And, I just I think what I would just to comment on that before I acknowledge you I mean, we don't really, Talk about religion too much on this channel, but I would say that for me That is the [01:00:00] relationship that God calls us each and every one of us to be in, God is there for us if we are a call for God to be with us and I think that is I mean I'm I feel a bit edified and humbled to basically Be told that I'm a reflection of that with our patients You and that's that's a beautiful thing, I think to me, that's, that to me speaks to the God's love, which shines through each of us when we have the opportunity to contribute to each other.
[01:00:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And. I think that's I mean, that's what I would want to hear an ideal world. So thank you for bringing an ideal world to the call today. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how I'm going to top that, but I will just say this, I was deaf. I'm definitely present to and moved by your your love for people, your commitment to making a [01:01:00] difference for people, you were on the phone with throughout the cub scout camp out and really throughout the whole better part of the week with this family member of the person who was in the hospital and, constantly in an inquiry of what can we do to make a difference?
[01:01:16] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: We, You compiled the list of the FLCCC doctors near, near this person, sent those over. I mean, it really went above and beyond for somebody who has never paid us a dime and nor would we accept any money from. But That to me just speaks to you and your heart and your desire to be of service to people and support them with what they're dealing with and, your commitment that nobody else die from this disease, which I think is a beautiful thing.
[01:01:44] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I think it's it was a tragic situation. And I know that you were affected deeply by it. And there's times where I. I think a little more resigned and cynical than you are about it. And
[01:01:58] Mrs. Madi Partovi: well, for me, and I appreciate [01:02:00] his mom,
[01:02:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Absolutely it is. Absolutely. It is. I got that.
[01:02:04] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I wish there's more we could have done, but it's I mean, I don't know to me, we're already skating the limit of what's possible. So I but I just really, I appreciate your stand. I appreciate your commitment and your stand that actually, that we make every little bit of difference we can for the people that, reach out to us and ask for our help.
[01:02:25] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And I know it was not easy, Because I know you took it on like really, and when she takes it on, she takes it on and yeah, there is definitely a sense that, we're on a mission here and we're instruments. And I mean, I pray it every week, that that I'd be an instrument of God's will and God's grace and, my hope is that that's who we are.
[01:02:50] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, my hope and my prayer literally,
[01:02:56] Mrs. Madi Partovi: I'm gonna, I'm gonna pivot my internal energy right now. [01:03:00] Okay.
[01:03:00] Celebrating a Special Birthday
[01:03:00] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Today we had the blessed opportunity to celebrate our son's third birthday.
[01:03:09] Mrs. Madi Partovi: The cheeky and fully self expressed joyful little one. And his favorite color is purple. So we had purple balloons, purple party gift bags purple lights, and purple everything. Purple
[01:03:29] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: everything. Purple cake.
[01:03:31] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Decadent purple cake.
[01:03:34] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Courtesy of Chef Cho.
[01:03:36] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yes, and this is lead into our next episode where I'd like to address one of our another beloved friend's question.
[01:03:45] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Why do you eat the way you eat? So I'd love, I would love for you to share what, how, what that purple cake was made of.
[01:03:56] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Oh, I mean, the purple cake was mostly made [01:04:00] of. We were going to, our initial plan was to go with a grape theme, and there was some all fruit grape and I want to say pomegranate and morello cherry.
[01:04:08] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It was like a mixture of some different dark fruits, jam that was, we used as a filler. But the, Cake itself is mostly we make our own baking powder because most baking powder is full of aluminum and you can't, or cornstarch, and we don't eat that stuff. But beyond that, I mean, arrowroot flour, almond flour, eggs.
[01:04:30] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: We took some freeze dried organic berries, ground those up, put those in. I didn't actually make the cake. I bought the ingredients that came up with the concept, but then Chef Joe made the cake. That was the cake itself. And then we did the jam layer in the middle. And then the icing also is butter, the butter, oh, and there's butter in the cake too, but the butter we get is grass fed, organic from New Zealand.
[01:04:58] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: It's, PFAS [01:05:00] free, which unfortunately it turns out Kerrygold is not so look it up PFAS Kerrygold. If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's got forever chemicals in it. That's probably a whole nother episode. But anyway so we're using this new zeal creamery, which, they should definitely endorse our channel.
[01:05:17] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: But they haven't yet. Anyway That's a fantastic butter. And we use some of that as also to make a butter cream with some Lakanto monk fruit sweetener. Oh, there was some raisin paste that we did cause we wanted the grape theme. So there was some raisin paste in the cake itself. Which is just basically you rehydrate raisins and then blend them up.
[01:05:37] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: And that's raisin paste, but it's like a sweetener. And that also gives it a little bit of a grapiness to it. And then
[01:05:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: some more, I mean, we use natural food colorings that are from all foods that are just, basically like different fruits and vegetables, but the powder of them and they make them into a liquid and you use. Anyway, we did [01:06:00] that with the Lakanto monk fruit sweetener, the confectioner's version with the butter and also some fresh berries and not fresh berries more freeze dried, but ground up and mixed in to give it.
[01:06:12] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: taste and some tartness. And
[01:06:15] Mrs. Madi Partovi: it was such a beautiful refined sugar free gluten free cake.
[01:06:21] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah. It's grain free refined sugar free. Yeah.
[01:06:24] Mrs. Madi Partovi: Yeah. Thank you. I just noticed our son stamped you with his taco stamp. It's been showing up. I have one too. Yeah. Okay I'm sufficiently clear.
[01:06:40] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Okay, great.
[01:06:41] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And I just I love doing this with you.
[01:06:43] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: Yeah, likewise.
[01:06:46] Mrs. Madi Partovi: All right. Sir,
[01:06:47] Conclusion and Gratitude
[01:06:47] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: I'm Ryan Partovi. I'm Dr. Ryan Partovi.
[01:06:52] Mrs. Madi Partovi: And I am Mrs. Madi Partovi. And one day I'll share why I always say I'm Mrs. Madi Partovi. It's an inside joke. [01:07:00]
[01:07:00] Dr. Ryan Partovi JD, NMD, MIFHI: This has been the Partovi effect creating the consensus. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for your time, attention, dedication, commitment to yourself and your own well being and the well being of others and the planet as a whole.
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